Premo Polyform Petition + Cane Slice Pod Beads Video

Glow In The Dark Jelly Roll Cane Slice Pod Bead Direct Link to the Premo
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“I love glow in the dark creations… especially these flower shaped ones!” ~Lupe-M

On Nov 16th, I posted an introductory preview clip for the Pod Bead tutorial.

Today, the full version of this video lesson (Vol-030-3) is available for viewing at the Polymer Clay Members Library. Here is the link:
Unique Pod Beads Made With Slices From Your Favorite Canes

For anyone who is not yet a paid member, if you did not know, the cost works out to only $3.32 per month. This gives you 24/7 access to the full versions of my Friday video tutes. Plus you also receive four A-series color recipe cards. This week’s color is: Smoky Blue (Vol-030-3A) from the Frosty Field Polymer Clay Color Palette.

Cindy, I watch your videos first before anything else when I get on the computer. You are just so super good, and Doug is too. The Lietz team gets the gold medal for a lifetime of kindness. All that information and beauty for just $3.32 a month – 4 tutes and 24 -7 blog full of info and fun. Clean family fun. Uuuuuugggggggs. ~Peggy-B

This was one of the most exciting months to date! (What am I talking about — they’re all exciting!) Every month is filled with great projects and tutorials. This is truly the best value for polymer clay video tutes there is! There’s no other site that comes close to what you offer us. Like I read somewhere when I first joined, the low membership rate we pay is actually “better than free.” We get “more” in every way — quality of the videos and instruction, quantity of the tutorials, color recipes, ideas & inspiration, and help & advice from our Polymer Clay Tutor, as well as other members, whenever we need it! I’m so happy to be a member of this fantastic community, and so very glad to have found you, Cindy Lietz! Thank you so much for everything you do! ~Phaedrakat

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Open Mic… Please use the comment sections of these Friday posts to discuss polymer clay challenges that you need some help with… success stories about your bead and jewelry projects… requests for upcoming video tutorials. In other words, it’s an open mic :-) .

Listed below are the topics that were discussed in the last Friday’s Open Mic comments:

  • Turning ugly ducklings into swans.
  • Canes… even for clayers who say they are no good at it.
  • Reasons to love polymer clay… no waste.
  • Kaleidoscope canes.
  • Selling on Etsy and Artfire and other fun places.
  • IMPORTANT ALERT: Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, Sea Green >> These are 3 of the primary colors that are at risk of being discontinued from the Premo Sculpey product line. We all need to work together to save them from extinction. Please add your voice of support to the Virtual Petition on this page in the comment section below. Your support IS needed on this very important issue.
  • And more…

If you need to catch up, here is the link to the article where last week’s topics were discussed in detail: Feather Canes

Otherwise, you can use the comment section below to start talking about some new topics and ideas. Happy Friday!!!

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Comments

  1. Have to vacuum first -domestic goddess stuff…..Can’t wait to do this tute. NEED some new earrings (giggle) so here they come ! Cindy has so many ways to use our scraps, right ? No waste -ever. Thanks……….

  2. Cindy, I love this bead technique… After I get back from grocery shopping this afternoon I’m going to be making some Pod Beads. Yipee..!! Thanks for another great tute Cindy!!!

    Peace, Love, and Clay,
    ~Lisa :)

  3. I would like to bring up the topic of Premo eliminating some of its colors – I cannot understand their logic for stopping the production of cobalt blue and zinc yellow. I also love Frost and don’t understand the need to change a fantastic product! I am very upset.

  4. Cindy, please check out Polyform Products’ Facebook page. They’re going to discontinue some Premo colors (incl. zinc yellow + cobalt blue!), and will market some new ones. It sounds as if they’re going “designer” with the colors!

  5. RE: Premo color changes

    Hi Cindy. While this is very exciting news, doesn’t it make you want to tear your hair out? I would imagine the transition period between the two clays will be a bit of a nightmare for you and your fabulous recipes. Hmmmm.

    Barb

    —————————————————————————————————————
    Polyform Announcement About Color Changes:
    Originally Posted on Facebook, November 18, 2010:
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    Polyform Products

    We are bursting with excitement – new colors with endless possibilities are just around the corner. It’s an unbelievable line-up with colors you requested. Have you ever imagined . . .
    • Peacock Pearl –eye-catching in lustrous, confident extravagance
    • Magenta Pearl – Glowing romance translated into art
    • Sunshine – innocence as sweet as a day running through the sprinkler
    • Navy – shades of royalty, commanding an audience
    • Pomegranate – juicy, rich and irresistible on the tip of the tongue
    • Denim – your favorite pair still fit, go ahead, try them on
    • Bronze – statuesque brilliance glimmering in view
    • Antique Gold – The classics are hard to ignore
    • Bright Green Pearl – dew kissed spring grass glistening in the morning sun
    These are only a few of the fabulous line-up of new premo! colors.

    Watch for our 2011 New Line of premo! Accents
    • Magenta Pearl • Purple Pearl
    • Bright Green Pearl • Peacock Pearl
    • Translucent Blue • Translucent Red
    • Translucent Yellow • Translucent Yellow
    • Translucent Green • Blue Glitter
    • Red glitter • Frost White Glitter
    • 18K Gold • Copper – updated color
    • Antique Gold • Bronze
    • Blue Granite • White Granite
    • Gray Granite • White Translucent – replaces Frost

    New 2011 premo! Colors
    • Denim • Spanish Olive
    • Navy Blue • Blush
    • Wasabi • Pomegranate
    • Candy Pink • Sunshine
    • Rhino Gray

    The following colors are discontinued: Red Pearl, Green Pearl, Cobalt Blue, Sea Green, Copper, Zinc Yellow, Frost, Fluorescent Green, Fluorescent Yellow, Fluorescent Red and Glow-In-The-Dark – We’ll have recipes for most on our website.

    Here’s the buzz about new Sculpey colors – fresh and trendy, always a crowd pleaser –

    New for 2011 Sculpey III colors
    • Pewter • Jewelry Gold
    • Copper • Suede Brown
    • Fuchsia Pearl • Glow-In-The-Dark
    • Plum • Deep Red Pearl
    • Candy Pink • Sky Blue
    • Lemonade

    The following colors are discontinued: Lt. Pink Pearl, Vanilla Crème, Pale Pistachio, Sunshine, Pottery, Stonewash, Tomato Red, Sunset, Ivory, Atomic Orange and Lemon. We’ll have recipes for most on our website.

  6. Thank you for posting this here Maria, and others. This is an extremely important issue. BTW, I have even been corresponding with Polyform about it directly, and was planning to bring up the topic today, with all of you guys… so this is perfect timing!

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    Here is how I feel about Polyform’s New Colors Announcement (the original Polyform Facebook Announcement page seems to have been removed):
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    Although I am SUPER excited about the new color additions, I am also VERY UPSET about three of the discontinued colors. Namely the removal of the Artist Pigment Based colors – Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green.

    One of the key reasons I have chosen to work with Premo and introduce it to thousands of my members, is because the color palette is based on the traditional artists color palette. In fact, I have published hundreds of color recipes based on this palette. The removal of three of Primary colors from this palette not only means that many of these color recipes will now be near impossible to mix, but so will a large portion of future colors. In fact I am working on two new palettes right now and this news has me wondering how I’m going to mix the colors I need for it. Can you imagine the outrage if these colors were removed from all oil or acrylic paint palettes? Artists would just flip out!

    Polyform has said that they will offer conversion recipes to replace some of the discontinued colors. It may work for some of the recipes, but I have no idea how they are going to do that with the Primaries, since they are base colors from which other colors are made. As well, even if it is possible to create a new mix that looks similar, it definitely won’t mix the same. Therefore, any past recipes containing these colors will become null and void.

    As far as the other colors that were discontinued, I am fine with that. They can always be mixed, as long as we still have the FULL SET of Primary colors including Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green. If not… well… those could be lost too.

    I completely understand a company’s need to adjust as time goes on. It is important to keep products fresh and current. But removing a few KEY Components to a line like this is just as upsetting as removing a color like Black or White from a line.

    So… I am asking for your help to get Polyform to change their mind and not discontinue these vital colors from their clay line. Think of this blog as your virtual petition. I would love to see 1000 comments here from our clay community saying:

    !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

    >>> Will you join me? Please post your comment below…

    If you would, please also make an announcement about this comment thread (topic) on your Twitter feeds, Facebook pages, Blogs and wherever else we can work together to draw attention to this important issue. Thanks so much!!!

    • @Cindy Lietz from Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, Sea Green:

      Polyform: PLEASE don’t discontinue these colours!! I rely entirely on mixes of Cobalt Blue/Zinc Yellow/Fuschia for all my signature colours that I use in my work. Without those colours I would have to swap brands in order to find a replacement, which wouldn’t be as good. The colours are what I chose Premo for as my preferred brand of clay. They have to stay!!!

    • I can’t believe you would discontinue yellow and blue from your color choices. Those are 2 important PRIMARY colors and will change color palettes of a lot of artists. You need to reconsider, or may lose a loyal customer of this product.

    • @Cindy Lietz from Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, Sea Green: Hey everyone, I am relatively new to polmer clay and one of the many challenges is to learn to get the most from the tools and products that are available. I was overwhelmed with all the different kinds of clays and color offerings, but when I found Maggie Maggio’s book and color tutorial website (and also had the great pleasure to meet her here in Portland, Oregon), some of the anxiety of how to get started in clay was alleviated. Knowing I could take a small number of primary and speciaIlty colors and produce so many beautiful things was a huge inspiration. I was just getting used to mixing my Premo colors when a friend told me to stock up on some of them because they were being discontinued. I couldn’t believe it. Yes, there are other brands of clay, and I do use them, but I was, needless to say, perplexed and upset that a company that has such a formidable presence in the polymer clay industry would make such a marketing blunder.

      I’ve logged onto the Sculpey Polyform website and emailed them directly with my concerns. I am writing this reply in June of 2011, and it’s been well over six or seven months since the original announcement pertaining to the discontinued colors. Has anyone heard definitively whether or not the Zinc Yellow, Sea Green and Cobalt Blue will definitely be discontinued. I feel passionately about Glow in the Dark and all the fluorescent colors as well. These colors cannot be replicated and should be considered basic building blocks of the color palette.

      Anyway, I’m adding my voice to the cause and I certainly hope we are heard!

    • Very excited about all the new colours coming out, but very unhappy about potentially losing zinc yellow, sea green and cobalt blue. Hope they reconsider after we all weigh in on the matter.

    • @Elly Moore:
      I mix my own colors a LOT and cobalt blue and zinc yellow are a MUST for this…..sea green is not as important to me….but I cannot see why a company would get rid of the basics….and these ARE…Laurel

  7. I also posted about this on my blog, and also posted on their FB discussion page about how unhappy I am about this. Someone at their company really did not do their homework about those colors.

    I’m even miffed about glow-in-the-dark – you CAN’T mix that from anything!! I guess I’ll be going back to FIMO for that color! :(

  8. !!!Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green!!!

    By all means the new colors will be welcome but my recipes are doomed if they call for these colors. PLEASE don’t discontinue Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green.

    Thank you for re-considering.

  9. I agree, I saw that yesterday and figured I’d have to switch to Kato clay as they have the primary tints to mix your own. I can’t imagine why Polyform would lose the primaries.

  10. I also mix a lot of my own colors and I REALLY need these primaries. I’d be willing to pay more per brick for these colors if that’s what polyform needs to do to keep producing them. They are VITAL to the artist’s palette. Off the top of my head I can think of 7-8 different color mixes I use on a regular basis that use these colors and many more I use less frequently.

  11. OUTRAGEOUS !!! What is Polyform thinking ? Not the first time they have screwed up with clay colours such as the now defunct Studio clay.
    I guess STAEDTLER FIMO and Kato Polyclay will be laughing all the way to the bank.

    !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!
    !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

  12. I’m sure change is good for a lot of things. removing Primary Colors does not make any sense. What are they thinking? Please rethink your position and move on to more productive reasoning. I use these colors all the time, so will stock while they are on sale on Michaels.

  13. Polyform, you need to keep the Sea Green, Cobalt Blue and Zinc Yellow in your range because otherwise you cannot offer an artists pallete as it will be incomplete. Us artists need these colours please save them.

  14. !!!Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green!!!

    Are they crazy?? We have to change their minds, like, yesterday!! Don’t they realize we artists make are own colors? That is the first rule of color usage. I was always taught to never use the hue straight from the tube or package! That is part of the creative process. And a very important one! If they want to change something, add to the color choices do not delete colors. I hope the their color recipes are accurate. If not, I’m sure their business will suffer.

  15. !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

    Please explaine how one mixes a primary color? It is by definition a Primary from which others are made, please please revisit your decision and keep these three PRIMARY colors and also the GITD clay as there is no other way to create that. I really don’t want the color formulas that use these colors to become useless. If this decision goes forward, I guess I will also have to decide if I wish to continue with your line of product once again and with all urgency I ask you to reconsider, it is only three colors and a speciality clay.

    Thank you.
    Ken Hamilton

  16. I don’t like one bit. I heard about this through one of our guild members. All we can do is let them know how unhappy we are. I am with you, Cindy..thrilled about the new colors but I do use the colors that they are getting rid of and although they have said they would be giving out recipes for those particular colors…who knows when that will be or which ones we will be receiving. I am going to send them a note to let them know that I am not very happy with this and to PLEASE save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green!!

  17. I use Premo primarily in my clay work. I am happy to hear of the new colors that will be available soon. However, I am not happy to hear of the discontinuing of Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green. Please, Polyform Product, reconsider and keep those three colors. They are necessary for mixing our color recipes. One other thought. I would like a true red in addition to the orange red of Cadmium Red. Thank you!!

  18. I promoted Premo brand clay specifically when I went on The Martha Stewart Show and demonstrated a polymer clay technique for covering eggs. I use Premo because it is made with artists in mind and I need the range of colors to stay complete (and even be expanded) so I can continue to use it and promote it. Thank you.
    Liz Smith

  19. !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

    Please don’t remove these colors, being an artist these are 3 of the PRIMARY colors I use everyday. Removing colors does not make any sense.

    I ask you to reconsider, it is only three colors!!

  20. To discontinue Cobalt Blue and Zinc Yellow is ridiculous – they are indeed primary colours.
    However, red is the third primary, not green….any green could be mixed from other colours in the range.

    • … just wanted to quickly pop in here and thank everyone for the early round of support. Please keep the comments coming!!!

      @Caroline You’re right about green not technically being a primary, but the particular tone that comes from Sea Green is not easily created with any of the actual primaries. It is know as Phthalo Green in the artist paint world and is vital to several of my color recipes. You are also right about Red being a Primary but the two Reds Cadmium Red (warm) and Alizarin Crimson (cool) have not been put on the chopping block as far as I know.

      @Joyce M: Thank you so much for pointing out what you said above. In regards to what else you can do… anything that will help to spread the word about this issue, would be helpful. If you frequent any of the polymer clay forums, please post a “public service” announcement to encourage everyone’s participation with this “virtual petition” that I’ve put togehter. If we are going to get a 1000 signatures, there’s still a long ways to go. Hopefully with everyone speaking out in unison in one place, we can all work together in saving our Precious Premo Primary Colors!!!!

      • Remember when the sun came up for many polymer clay users? It was when Marie Segal developed her strong, manageable clay and when Polyform began to market it as Premo. Sadly, the sun will quickly set on us Premo users if we lose two key primary colors! I’ll bet that the people who have made this decision know zero about color theory and have never even made a full-spectrum Skinner blend.

        Furthermore, I bet they don’t know the following:
        1) Polymer clay jewelry made it onto a New York runway this year, and it wasn’t hobbyists working with off-the-shelf colors of sparkle clay that made it happen.
        2) The first major museum collection of polymer clay work was established this year, and the work included is serious ART — much of it made with Premo.

        Polyform is more than short-sighted if it fails to listen to the teachers and artists who have raised this medium to new heights in the last 25 years.

  21. They are also getting rid of red pearl. There is no good way to make red pearl. Unless that “magenta pearl” is a good facsimile, but last I checked, magenta was more on the pink side, wasn’t it? And adding the orangey cadmium red to that, I don’t imagine would make a good match for red pearl.

  22. I also disagree with the choice to discontinue these colors. I have a series of color recipe ebooks that will need to be redone if these colors are gone. I’m pretty sure I will not be able to recreate some of the recipes without these 3 colors.

    Honestly, if they do continue with the plans to discontinue these colors, I will have to switch clay brands. Even if the new colors are wonderful, I need to consistantly use one brand in my recipes so I would be unable to use the new colors.

  23. After reading today’s blog I went to my recipe file and really this news is rather devasting…this would mean that
    Cindy’s A Recipes use Cobalt Blue in 10 of them; the B Recipes total 14.
    The Zinc Yellow A’s total 13 and the B’s also total 13.
    The Sea Green A’s total 6 and the B’s total 5.
    That is a total of 61 recipes that took how many hours to produce????
    This is only Cindy’s recipes and some of you are doing your own. I was shocked to see just how much this affects Cindy.

    So we need to make sure that every member learns of this and helps to put a stop to this before it is too late.

    Is there anything else we can do, Cindy?

  24. Looking at the names of some of the new colors, it looks as if they’re merging some of the former Dona Dewberry line into Premo, wasn’t there a denim and wasabi color in that line?

    • @Ken H:

      Looks like it to me… These “new” Premo colors are also in the now defunct Studio line:

      Pomegranate
      Denim
      Antique Gold
      Navy
      Blush
      Spanish Olive

  25. The new colours sound wonderful but removing basic primary colours that artists are using for established colour formulas to generate professional product lines is appallingly unfair to long term customers. Please reconsider this baffling decision.

  26. What? Are they out of their minds. Obviously they are not artists. We were taught at an early age that we need these colors to create every other color out there. I’m shocked. I will definitely look into an alternate product.

  27. Cobalt Blue and Sea Green are two of my favorite Premo colors.

    As exciting as the new colors seem, I do not want to lose the essential colors of the old palette.

    Please, don’t discontinue these colors!

  28. !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

    !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

    !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

    If Polyform removes these colors, it will make a lot of my color recipes invalid… How can you do this to us??? I switched to Premo! Clay because of the colors – now I’m glad I didn’t sell my Kato Clay, looks like I may be going back to it… And I’m sure we’re not the only clayers that are extreemly unhappy about the loss of these 3 colors. And the Glow-in-the-Dark clay too, tsk, sad to see that go too…

    ~Lisa Whitham

  29. Please don’t discontinue those colors! They are all too important to our art. And of course they are 3 of my favorites, isn’t that how it always works? You find something you love only to have the company discontinue it. sigh

    Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!!

  30. If you have access to facebook, please put your comments on the Polyform discussion page as well: facebook.com
    #!/topic.php?uid=106551216055451&topic=456

    • @Carol Simmons: Good suggestion Carol… about leaving comments over at the Polyform Facebook page too! There is a live link to that discussion pg in my orig comment that was posted earlier today, as well as by my name just above. The more places we can can let our voice be heard the better. Let’s Save those colors!

  31. !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

    I use polymer clay creationss in some of my designs…I cannot imagine why a primary color would be removed from production.

    !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

  32. Ack…clay that sounds like food. What are they thinking??? Golden or Daler Rowney would never take cobalt and zinc from their paint line. I doubt they have a paint called “Spanish Olive or Denim” Another example of how polymer clay is not considered part of the “fine art” world. We will never achieve true fine art status in the polymer clay world without an artists mixing palette of colors to work with.

  33. I am extremely disappointed that Polyform will be discontinuing cobalt Blue and zinc Yellow, two of the primary colors that artists need to mix their own custom color formulas and well as sea green which isn’t a primary, but is difficult to mix from colors which exist will still exist in the line. The fluorescents are wonderful to give a pop to formulas, too. Perhaps cobalt blue, zinc yellow, sea green, and the fluorescents aren’t up there near the top of the big seller list of PREMO colors, but those of us who mix custom colors buy A LOT of the OTHER colors to mix WITH them. I’ve been a dedicated PREMO user for a long time and over the years have recommended PREMO to 1,000’s of new clayers in schools and in the crafting community. I have recommended it BECAUSE the palette was designed with mixing in mind, and it uses the same vocabulary as color theory, oils and watercolors. Who can tell whether a “primary” with a name like “Sunshine” is a pure color and how it will mix up in color formulas? Having been a hardcore PREMO user for SO many years, it saddens me to write this, but with some of those critical primary colors scheduled to be discontinued from the line, I can’t think of a compelling reason to continue using PREMO and will probably be forced to eventually defect to Fimo when my stockpile runs out. (BTW, I have a business and spend hundreds of dollars a year on clay.)

  34. What kind of company that makes a product for artists would do something as insane as discontinuing THREE primary colors??? It makes one wonder about whether decisions being made at Polyform are being done so by people who really know what they are doing. Very sad.

    SAVE SEA GREEN!! SAVE COBALT BLUE!! SAVE ZINC YELLOW!!

  35. Please keep Cobalt blue,Zinc yellow and Sea green!!!

    These are primary colors for an artist and NO WAY CAN THESE COLORS BE MIXED. New colors are welcome but please do your research about primary colors. We have recipes developed with these primary colors and we would not be able to mix them again. I’m also unhappy about glow in the dark clay going to be discontinued. You can’t mix that either. So , please rethink about discontinuing these primary colors.

  36. Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

    When you look at how many choices there are with Sculpey III, it cannot hurt to keep these primaries.

    Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

  37. Save the primary colors!!! It is the artists who use these colors that are promoting polymer clay and encouraging many hobbyists to buy it. The hobbyists will use the colors with the fancy names, but they wouldn’t be buying them without the artists who mix their own colors and promote polymer clay as an art form.

  38. Dear Polyform, while I am very excited about some of the new colors, discontinuing 3 very necessary colors (and red pearl, one of my favorites) is a bad business decision. Please do not alienate the polymer clay community.
    Keep Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green.

  39. I have posted on the Polyform page how steamed I am with their blatant disregard for the hours and hours of time and effort many many many of us have put into developing color recipes and color palettes. I think this is a tremendously bad decision on their part. I hope they hear us; if not, and I have to start all over with developing a palette, it won’t be with Premo!

    Edie

  40. !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

    THESE COLORS ARE A MUST for ARTISTS. Specially the primaries.

    Please, Please, Please don’t take them away.
    Artists have been using them for years now and these colors are essential for us.

  41. Please add me to the long list of clayers who don’t want to see Premo Sculpty Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green disappear!

  42. Keeping an eye on the Facebook page. No news from Polyform. Maybe they’re all at a meeting….hoping tomorrow is a better day for Premo! Clay.

    SAVE: Cobalt Blue Zinc Yellow Sea Green!

  43. I don’t understand the reasoning behind eliminating the building blocks (primaries) to make room for a trend. Constantly changing these temporary colors along with hard to mix base colors creates a lot of inconvenience to those who are loyal to Premo. If we really want the hottest color we can, and do mix our own. But to do this, continuity is also necessary. Seems like little thought has been given to how artist’s specifically modify their own colors derived from base colors.
    Those dedicated to this art form (who buy repeatedly) will be forced to compensate (with the worry that this will repeat itself in a few years); or simply switch brands to keep this from happening over and over. I have enjoyed using Premo, but for the first time I’m strongly considering changing brands because it’s just not worth the extra effort and expense recreating new color palettes every few years.

    Please reconsider discontinuing Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, Red Pearl, Sea Green, and Frost.

  44. Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green…
    How in the world can one mix colors without the primaries?
    Take away some of the mixes, but not the main ones…we need those…………….

  45. Polyform ~ I respectfully request that you thoroughly consider the deafening outcry to reconsider the elimination of some key colors in the Premo product line.

  46. !!!Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green!!!
    Polyform, please think of all the people that have changed from other clays to premo due to Cindy’s tutorials. Cindy, and countless other artists spend hours developing color palettes, then rely on them for their work. Please do not take these colors away!!!!!!!

    !!!Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green!!!

    !!!Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green!!!

  47. OMG what are you thinking? These are colors we use ALL the time. Colbalt blue is my favorite. I’m happy you’re introducing new colors BUT please do not remove colbalt blue, sea green or zinc yellow!!

  48. Please save those colours, but add violet too!!! I need those colours!!! I’ll probably add the new ones to my must haves…but I need the other ones also. I’ll buy 1 lb blocks!

    • @Tina Holden: You make an excellent point Tina! Violet is also a good one to keep though I do think that one can be worked around a little easier than the others.

      @Carolyn Good: I can see your point Carolyn for colors such as Ecru, which would be easily mixed. But can you think of a recipe from the current line of Premo that you could mix up to make Zinc Yellow, Cobalt Blue or Sea Green, because I can’t and I have made hundreds of custom color recipes. If there is a way to get a color that looks similar, it probably won’t mix the same way. I ran into the problem of making a whole lot of mud when experimenting with making recipes with the Studio by Sculpey line. This was because none of the colors were pure like the artist based Premo colors are.

  49. I understand totally about missing some of those colors — my fav is the zinc yellow. I can also accept them taking those colors away as long as they provide the recipes for those colors like they say they will. I love the Premo colors but have not been happy with how soft and mushy the clay is so have switched to Kato which is much better since they changed their formula. Shades of Clay provides recipes for Kato clay to create some of our fav Premo colors which I have tried and use faithfully. I basically keep a batch of my basic Premo colors (ecru for instance) mixed all the time and use it like I would if I had that Premo color. Takes a little more mixing but once you have your recipe down there is nothing to it. Just a tip for some of those who are upset over the whole issue.

  50. Oh, no! Sea Green is my favorite color. Please don’t discontinue Sea Green, Zinc Yellow, or Cobalt Blue. I’ll also really miss Red Pearl and Green Pearl. Please reconsider your decision to discontinue those primary colors that are used so often in Cindy’s recipes as well as my own.

  51. While I can understand the need to freshen up the Premo line…Removing PRIMARY colors seems like a horrible decision. PLEASE listen to your clientele, we NEED these colors for the wonderful items we make with your clay! Zinc Yellow and Cobalt Blue and Sea Green are vital to some of our most basic color mixes!

  52. Polyform:
    PLEASE do NOT discontinue Zinc yellow, Sea Green or Cobalt Blue. These are three very important colors on my pallett of polymer clay.

  53. This is so sad to think a large company such as Polyform would make such a huge decision without putting any thought or research into it. At least it appears to have been done this way. The fact that you want to add colors and improve your business is great. But to sabotage your faithful and most dedicated customers is just thoughtless and rude. Surely you can understand how important these colors are to any artist who mixes and creates recipes with the premo clay how vital the primary colors are. All of these artists who have wrote in have shown premo nothing but true dedication. Recommending this wonderful clay to all new clayers praising it’s ability in color mixing and great performance as a polymer clay. Truth is told if these colors are dropped I am sure several of your dedicated clayers will be switching to another type of clay because you have forced them to do this so they can continue to mix their own colors. This will not be done by their choice but yours.
    So Please if you make the right choice to Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green Premo Clay. All of your Premo Clay Fans will be more than thrilled to remain the dedicated Premo Clay users of the future.
    Help us stay with you.

  54. !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

    Please Premo, these colors are integral parts of our color palettes and recipes. These recipes have taken countless hours to create, mixing the right shades for our beautiful pieces of art. Cindy Lietz has passed along lots of these recipes to us (custom colors she’s worked hard to create!) The clay colors you’re planning to discontinue are ingredients we count on to mix up our recipes! There are even more customized, new shades we all make and add to our own “recipe books” — and they also require the primaries. We should be able to trust our clay company to have the clays we need to duplicate our custom mixes…please do not take our primary colors away!

    The new products you’re adding do sound exciting, but it doesn’t make up for the loss of the all-important primaries that allow us to mix our colors. Besides the Cobalt Blue and Zinc Yellow, I just love Sea Green (one of my favorites!) I also use Red Pearl quite a bit, especially around the holidays…please do not get rid of this one, either. You say that the recipes for most will be available on the website, but I can’t see that working. How do you mix up a primary when it’s the base of a color recipe? At the very least, it will skew the results. It will mean a waste of the time spent creating our recipes…and having to start from scratch on most colors. It makes me sick to think of it…

    It seems like you’re trying to attract new customers with “pretty colors”…and ignoring the artists who have stuck with you all this time. I beg you — please don’t do this to us!

    !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

  55. This is what I posted on the Polyform facebook page:
    At ClayAround we sell most makes of clay – and I am most disappointed with this announcement by Polyform. My statistics show that Copper (along with translucent and white) are the Premo best sellers – as is Frost. Cobalt blue is not so popular, but zinc yellow is a ‘must’ . And I believe it is a vary bad move to eliminat the fluorescent colours which crafters know will give a ‘lift’ to their colour schemes. I guess my customers will simply turn to other makes of clay………….. I wonder if these decisions are good marketing!?
    In mitigation incorporating some of the Studio colours is a good idea – but why not more?

  56. I think the decision to discontinue these 3 colors is very unfortunate and short sighted…….Some of the new colors sound intriguing, but they are not as essential to a working color palette as these colors are…Zinc Yellow, in particular, since it is the olny yellow that doesn’t have orangey tones in it. I wonder if artists were consulted on this decision? It sounds like a marketing ploy dreamed up by people who don’t even work with polymer clay…

  57. Please Polyform do not discontinue ‘any’ of the colors. Zinc yellow, colbalt blue, sea green, pearl red, pearl blue, pearl green (my favorite) are all very important colors, why would you want to discontinue primaries and hard to recreate greens. And the flouros and GITD, how on earth can we recreate those from some recipe you give unless you give us a base fluro and GITD base in which we add color clays to??? Please listen to our needs, please!!!

    Love the idea of new colors but ‘don’t’ ditch the old ones, and forget the cutesy color names – sunshine, wasabi, pomegranate – what is sunshine and who wants food names for clay … ugh!

  58. GEE WIZZ—I’ve gone to polyform’s FB page and left a comment there just as you ask. I’m still so upset I can barely type. Just wanted to add my name to your list of unhappy clayers.
    SAVE ZINC YELLOW
    SAVE COBALT BLUE
    SAVE SEA GREEN
    and by listening to us, you (Polyform) may just learn a REAL marketing lesson.

    i’m not one to do alot of facebook’n or such But this is IMPORTANT
    LET’S all that read Cindy each week and never say anything
    SAY IT NOW ————————————–SAVE OUR COLORS

  59. I, too, am disappointed by the proposed elimination of these 3 colors from Premo! by Polyform. Apparently, they do not consider us artists, but just playing around? If so, they haven’t taken a look at the many pictures available of polymer clay artists’ work available on the internet, or our own on Facebook at Cindy’s page! Seems to go hand-in-hand with Joann’s deciding the polymer clay all belongs in the children’s section of the store, which is absurd.

    Please, Polyform! While we enjoy getting new colors, please rethink and do not discontinue at least these 3: Cobalt blue, zinc yellow and sea green!

  60. One thing has me rather curious. If clay artists purchase their clay through places like Hobby Lobby and Michaels, how can anyone (especially the manufacturer) KNOW if it’s the artist community purchasing it or if it’s just kids and casual users that are buying the product. Given the amount of $$ I spend each year on clay, my guess is that the artist community DOES contribute significantly to their revenue and it would be wise for them to listen.

  61. Changing colors in a line is important whether it be paint or fabric…but there are always the “tried and true” colors that must remain as they are the basis of so many other colors. Zinc Yellow and Cobalt Blue are two very important primaries to the polymer clay community. Please Polyform, reconsider this decision.

  62. Keep cobalt blue, zinc yellow, and sea green!!! Perhaps Polyform doesn’t realize that many clayers use primary colors to mix custom colors??? Premo is the stronges and easiest clay to use. I like Kato, which has a lovely blue and bright yellow. Kato is also strong but is often extremely difficult to condition. I admit to not having tried their new formula, though. If Polyform insists on dropping those colors I predict that Kato’s sales will sky rocket. Who in Polyform is making this decision???

  63. Polyform -after reading so many negative comments about Zinc Yellow, Cobalt Blue and Sea Green -you must realize that you will be losing HUNDREDS if not thousands of loyal customers. Obviously, you need to re-think your product line, Discontinuing primary color ( OUR MAINSTAY) is a terrible choice.

    I have posted on polyform site, also.

  64. I was taken aback at the announcement of the retirement of cobalt blue and zinc yellow. Those are the two primary colours I use constantly to mix the other colours I use. Please keep these colours.

  65. I mainly use Premo clay in my work and would be very unhappy to being losing a lot of these colours. Please don’t discontinue them.

  66. This petition is fine but I would encourage everyone here to send a personal e-mail to polyform or leave a comment on their facebook page letting them know how you feel. You will see far better results if everyone shows they are serious about it. Just a suggestion. One e-mail with a bunch of names doesn’t compare with several hundred or thousand e-mails. Get my point?

  67. Thanks for your comment Carolyn. I agree that emails can also help the support this important cause. However, the big benefit of hosting a virtual petition like this, is so that everything is out in the open. A public page with a 1000 votes of support on it, is a pretty powerful document. I’m sure the decision makers at Polyform are all watching closely.

    NOTE TO POLYFORM (AND IRIS-W): My sincere goal here, is to help you guys see how important this issue really is. I for one, would love to remain loyal to your Premo brand…

  68. Adding my voice to the crowd of people who are utterly perplexed that a company would alienate it’s customers to this degree. Don’t they have a market research group that would look into the impact this has on it’s customers? I would think that it is Marketing/Business Survival 101 to not piss off your customers and yet . . . that is exactly what they are doing!

    Polyform: please listen to us, don’t discontinue our primary colors! Those should be in a separate category that doesn’t get messed with. Have another “decorator category” and play around with those if you want to make changes but please, don’t take away our primary colors!!!

    Save Zinc Yellow!!
    Save Colbalt Blue!!!
    Save Sea Green!!!!

    Save your reputation as a company that actually cares about the people who spend their hard-earned dollars on your products!!!!!!!!

  69. My hands hurt, but I agree with Lawrence, so:

    “OUTRAGEOUS !!! What is Polyform thinking ? Not the first time they have screwed up with clay colours such as the now defunct Studio clay.
    I guess STAEDTLER FIMO and Kato Polyclay will be laughing all the way to the bank.

    !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!
    !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!”

  70. Yes, I also wrote the “using Kato” in my post. We should stress the economic repercussions if Polyform drops these colors. “Hitting where it hurts the most” often brings the best results. Can you imagine the dollars people will NOT be spending for these Premo colors? It will be the same amount that Kato will gain if these colors are dropped. I do not wish to use any clay that isn’t strong enough for jewelry. Kato is strong. No primary colors in Premo; primary colors in Kato…..sounds like a very bad financial decision to me.

    • @Koolbraider: You bring up a really good point. I’ve just written my letter to Polyform. Thought this was an important point as well: ….”Please keep in mind that many of us are also parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles and love to introduce and incorporate clay with the children in our lives. I’m less likely to buy from a company I’m not happy with – Premo, Sculpey – and will find it easy to reach for the less expensive brand instead.”

  71. I’m pretty upset by Polyforms’ decision to eliminate the following colours…Cobalt Blue, Copper, Zinc yellow, Blue Pearl, Sea Green and Violet. I’ve gone to a lot of time and trouble to make a custom set of colour blends up for commercial special order items and will now be unable to match them again. I understand the companys’ need to “freshen up” some of the colour choices but there are many thousands of us who need the basics to remain true for the above mentioned reasons. I really hope they will reconsider.

  72. Signing the petition to show my support. Also left this comment on their Facebook discussion page:

    “Premo is touted as being based on an artist’s palette. Getting rid of two primary colors, Zinc Yellow and Cobalt Blue, seems to go against the brand’s image.

    As Tonja’s comments indicate, this decision also shows a disconnect between Polyform and the claying community. Many polymer clay artists I know have been working through Lindly Haunani and Maggie Maggio’s excellent color book, which relies heavily on mixing your own colors from the primaries. Maybe the people who mix their own colors aren’t the bulk of your customer base — maybe the dollar signs show that many customers want straight-from-the-package colors. But do you really want to frustrate the designers and artists and teachers who have spent countless hours mixing their personal color schemes using primaries you’re now discontinuing? Those designers and artists and teachers are the ones who support and promote your brand by recommending it to new clayers.

    Please re-consider.”

    Good luck with the petition!

  73. Plz don’t discontinue the cobalt blue, zinc yellow, or the sea green! You can keep them and actually add other colors, y’know – it’s ok!!! Really!!

  74. I agree with what everyone’s saying here – it appears that the artist community has not been consulted about this decision to discontinue such important colors (primaries!) I have created custom mixed colors that I use to make my jewelry and decor items. I use most, if not all, of the colors that are being discontinued in my recipes! I especially use Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and the pearl colors. I love Sea Green, too. Please do not discontinue these colors. It will mean the time I spent perfecting my custom colors was in vain. Color recipes shared and traded with other artists will be of no use, either. I sincerely hope this petition gets noticed – I also sent an email to Polyform about this.

    !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

  75. Well I never heard of any sort of manufacturer of colour products ever thinking of getting rid of Primary colours. That’s where it all starts for every little thing you do in colour.
    I always told my students to buy 3 primaries and black and white and colour mixing goes from there, be it paint or polyclay,so it amazes me that a company whose business it is to sell primary colours in clay like this, is so STUPID as to forget where it all comes from.
    I can’t see their reasoning.!!

    Save COBALT BLUE,ZINC YELLOW AND SEA GREEN!!!

    TO SAVE THE COMPANY, THEY NEED TO HEAR WHAT THE TRUE ARTISTS ARE SAYING,
    or it will be a melt down for them. They are not the only poly clay makes around. ZINC YELLOW is vital to our colour mixing.
    E XX

  76. Thanks Cindy! I posted a link here from my blog also.

    The first line of the product description for Premo! says, “Premo Sculpey is an artist’s dream come true! “. While that may have been true, it is no more. When you take away two primary colors (cobalt blue and zinc yellow), you take away an artist’s color palette. Polyform says it will have recipes for cobalt blue and zinc yellow. How in the hell can you mix a primary color? Well, you can’t. They will not be exactly the same, nor will they mix exactly the same. Artists mix their own colors. It is part of what makes their work unique.

    • Thank you everyone for your incredible support here! Together I really think we can save these colors. Who knows, maybe this will be a good thing in the end. Polyform will see just how passionate we all are about their product and maybe we can become a bigger part of the shaping of the product lines? I for one have many ideas for products. It would be nice if those ideas were heard.

      Personally, I think we as users of the Premo line, have just been way too quiet about how we feel. In my opinion, there should be thousands of names (instead of just 100’s) supporting the various petitions, facebook groups, blogs and forums that are currently speaking out about this important topic.

      If we are unable to change Polyforms mind (which I truly hope we can, because I love Premo)… then we may have to blame ourselves for not trying harder to convince them. Please speak out loud and strong about this issue as many of us have already started to do.

      This can be done in a positive and enthusiastic way. Not a negative, slanderous and defeatist way. Keep up the great work everyone! Lets get a 1000 names on this list!

      @Chris Dembinski: Thank you so much for posting a link on your blog to this petition!! I wholeheartedly appreciate the help in making this happen!! :-)

      ***As a side note… the palette pages I keep linking to, are to recipes that will become extinct if we allow these primary colors to be discontinued. Keep that in mind!

  77. Please Please keep Artists primary colors: Zinc Yellow & Cobalt Blue. They are essential for color mixing and no ‘formula’ to achieve these colors will work in the same way

  78. Im very disappointed to hear about this. An extremely narrow-minded and short sighted decision, which I sincerely hope they reconsider. I came back to Premo because of the artist range of colours, to remove three of the most important of them means I might as well go back to a polymer clay that costs me less like Kato.

  79. In the UK we can only get high quality polymer clay from a limited range of manufacturers – and Sculpey is one of them. Please don’t remove these vital colours.

  80. Premo has been my favorite polymer clay for many years, both for its workability and its color range. I don’t understand why you’re removing two of the basic primaries: zinc yellow and cobalt blue. They’re essential for artists in this medium. Please don’t let them go!!! I don’t use sea green, but can understand how difficult it might be to mix. Sometimes there are colors which just can’t be duplicated exactly. Please listen to us, Polyform!!!

  81. How dissapointing to us all…….. All the work we artist put into all of our pieces of art depend on those colors esp. Blue and Yellow. How would they like it is all artist stop claying? I doupt that would even happen, but you have to look at the big picture. Like Cindy mentioned above a lot of her Tutorials uses these colors and what beautiful colors they are. Please don’t remove the colors from the color palete!

  82. Please keep Cobalt blue,Zinc yellow and Sea green!!!

    As a polymer clay artist, I use these colors extensively and they are primary colors. You are REALLY going to discontinue PRIMARIES? That is absurd. I realize your biggest market is most likely the hobbyist that just “plays with clay” but there is a large base of polymer artists that use your product and create objects that are sold for their livelihood. There is NO WAY CAN THESE PRIMARY COLORS BE MIXED. New colors are welcome but please do your research about primary colors. Several national artists have recipes developed with these primary colors and books have been written using these primary colors for mixing. PLEASE RECONSIDER!!!!!!!!

  83. I am usually a quiet reader of this very entertaining and informative blog, but I am so concerned with Polyform’s proposal of discontinuing Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green. Like our Polymer Clay Tutor said if you removed Cobalt Blue from a painters palette line there would be an uproar. It seems to me this would not be a good business decision. Please re-consider your thoughts on this. You will keep all your customers happy and buying your clay.

  84. Please save cobalt blue, zinc yellow and sea green. These colors are essential to blending a plethera of colors. Keep these colors in your line, I am willing to purchase any of your new colors that you develop. Its always great to expand your horizons. Give us more to purchase.

  85. Save Cobalt Blue and Zinc Yellow! Listen to the people who actually use your products and not the accountants. Get rid of some other line of clay that doesn’t sell well and keep the primary colors in the Premo line.

  86. It would be a real courtesy if Polyform would publish those formulas for mixing cobalt blue and zinc yellow (as Carolyn mentioned) before discontinuing those colors. Perhaps after failing this test they will understand why this decision is completely wrong. It truly sounds as if the decision is made by others in the company who have no experience with actually working and mixing the clays.

    • This year at CHA in Anaheim, the Polyform representative told me they were making changes that would make clayers very happy. I wonder what they were talking about, as this can’t possibly hit the target to make us happy. It just tells me that they STILL don’t know who the customers are. They STILL don’t understand how many of us recommend Premo first before any other clay. They STILL don’t understand to whom they owe the success of their clay.

      SAVE COBALT BLUE, ZINC YELLOW, SEA GREEN AND THE FLUORESCENTS! COPPER AND GLOW, TOO!

      (Do you REALLY want to bet the business to see what happens if you don’t, or are you willing to gamble on a mutiny!)

  87. Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea green!
    Also Flourescents, please and my favorite background, Frost Translucent! I am surprised no one mentioned that one yet.

  88. Hobbiests may buy and use PC once or twice but committed artists like ourselves buy the product over and over. When I teach a PC class I always encourage students to buy and use Premo so I am helping to lead people to this product. I go to the store I see rows and rows in numerous colors in Sculpy III, now you cannot tell me there is no room in the Premo line for these three colors !!!!
    Here is a shout out to my Clay Neighbor in Central Iowa Chris D.

  89. Adding my voice to the virtual petition. Thank you Cindy for creating this. I agree with your honest assessment that perhaps we’ve been too quiet in expressing ourselves over the years. I, too, hope that en mass we can create a groundswell & influence Polyform to reconsider their decision. I posted the following on their FB page:

    I’ve used Kato & Fimo here & there but always returned to Premo as my primary clay, even more after learning how to mix custom colors and create my own color palette. While I look forward to seeing the new colors, I am greatly disappointed to learn that I & my fellow artists are losing several colors that our key to creating our custom color palettes. I am also saddened that customer retention and customer loyalty may not be important to Polyform. It appears that you may lose many customers, myself included, because of this decision. And while the customer loss may not directly impact your bottom line, the opinions of the artists and the recommendations we make when teaching & sharing could have a ripple effect. I ask you to reconsider this decision to discontinue zinc yellow & cobalt blue.

  90. to Polyform Products,
    You have many artist using your Premo! product because of your faithfulness to the artists colors palatte. I personally prefer Premo! because of the colors available to mix true colors and secondary colors for my work. Using true artists colors is a great help in color theory. What would we ever do if a artist paint manufacturer eliminated two or three of their pigments in the primary range. Brands would be switched in a moment. This will also happen to Premo! unless you reconsider eliminating the Zinc Yellow, Cobalt Blue (a favorite) and Sea Green (one of the best colors) Violet is also a favorite of mine. Maybe you could add a medium or dark Cadmium Red while you are at it. After you eliminated the Brilliant Red color, I was never successful at mixing just that color from the recipe provided by Polyform. I am very disapointed in Polyform at this point. Thanks for listening

  91. I hereby add my name to the list as one who is very upset at your discontinuing the zinc yellow, the cobalt blue and sea green. What are you thinking? Did it ever occur to you that there are professional artists who use these VERY SAME COLORS in their mixes? Why, these are the basics we use to make gorgeous art pieces. I guess we could all buy just Kato or Fimo clay, but wouldn’t you like to keep our business instead of running us off to find what we need elsewhere? Think about this please….

  92. What? Are they crazy? Don’t they realize that serious artists are using their products and not just a bunch of kids who want glittery, nonsense colors? They should keep all the original colors and add to their line. What are they thinking (apparently they’re not)?

  93. Dear Polyform,

    I buy zinc yellow and cadmium blue in the big bricks several times a year because they are ESSENTIAL to color mixing. Please keep those colors!

  94. Who thought that discontinuing 2/3rds of the traditional primary colors was a good idea? Serious polymer clay artists and teachers purchase these primary colors by the pound many times a year. Is our business not worth keeping?

    After giving Polyform and Premo free advertising since 1999, simply because they offered a traditional pallet to work from, over a gig of tutorials on my site are now obsolete because of this ill advised business move. I feel betrayed as a loyal long term customer.

    I am not just one voice of complaint. I have over 2,000 members in CITY-o-Clay at Yahoo Groups, 300+ FaceBook friends, 200+ Twitter followers and over 5K visitors to my website each month. All of whom I had recommended Premo as a brand. Bad word of mouth in the age of the internet is not wise during a recession.

  95. Please, please, please keep primary colors Cobalt Blue and Zinc Yellow! They are essential to color mixing and many art pieces myself and others reproduce have been dependent on them. You should keep all the usual colors and add to the line but not discontinue any of them, even the glow-in-the-dark clay is a keeper!!!Please listen to those of us who use these colors and keep them in the product line up. Thanks

  96. Please save our Primary colors – cobalt blue, zinc yellow and sea green !!! I’d also love to still be able to get the fluorescent colors, too. Don’t see how they are going to supply us with recipes to mix any of these colors.

  97. !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

    THESE COLORS ARE PRIMARIES and A MUST for ARTISTS. I’ve just started to enjoy my Premo…

  98. Just wanted to add my voice to the many already here.

    Please, please do not discontinue the primary colours. This is devestating news for all of us who use these colours in our work.

  99. Keep zinc yellow and cobalt blue!

    Primary colors are foundational to every artist working with color – any medium. They are not a fun, trendy choice – they are necessary! How can getting rid of ANY of the primary colors be a sound, long term economic decision for a company making ART supplies?

  100. Eveyrone has pretty much said what needs to be said about them discontinuing those colors. What I don’t understand is why they didn’t contact the claying community and ask what they thought before they made the decision. They could have gone to Cindy or The International Polymer Clay people or the great artists who have put out books with recipes in them and asked what they thought and gotten some feedback from the people using the product before they made the announcement. Are they having trouble getting the ingredients for those three colors? I would have thought they were making a ton of money selling those since they are primaries. Maybe they just did this so they could sell a bunch all at one time and then they will change their minds.
    I use all three of those colors a lot and I have been stocking up but I hate to have clay sitting around here in Arizona for a long time, it turns to rocks because we have no moisture.

    Please add my name to the list of people who think this is a bad idea.

    I’m excited about the new colors but without the primaries- – – – no thanks.

  101. I’m with all of you. I can’t imagine what marketing wiz thought the elimination of important primary colors was a great idea that would make us all happy. To the list of cobalt blue, zinc yellow and sea green I would also add violet. The violet I mix doesn’t quite have the rich hue of the prepackaged violet. Anyway i’m torn between loading up on large blocks of these colors and just throwing in the towel and placing a large Kato order. Because make no mistake Polyform, I and many others will be forced to switch brands if you go through with this action, and we artists use A LOT of clay.

  102. If it’s cost issue, raise the price. If we need the medium, we’ll find a way to pay for it. Could you imagine taking those colours away from a painter? Anarchy! Please rethink this, Polyform.

  103. as posted on Tonja Lenderman’s facebook:
    In tough times it is wise to run fewer skus in inventory. Dropping primaries used by artists is a mistake, at worst a statement. The demand to use a color out of a package speaks of a casual user. It appears that Polyform has “run the numbers” and decided– that casual user is their market. For the 10 years I’ve known Polyform, they have promoted and dropped idea after idea. Always looking for the next thing to bring them profit. Artists who make their living selling product made from their clay and artists who write and teach will always be their economic core. These actions will leave a bad taste in the mouths of those they need to retain as loyal customers.

  104. While Premo is not my primary clay, I still use it in reasonable quantities — I have 110 2oz packets in my “at my fingertips” working store, plus another 10 litres worth to keep that lot replenished — and its main strength had been the colour palette. Not the number of colours, but the fact that the range included both cool and warm primaries, clear deep colours, and saturated pearlescents that cannot be mixed without colour concentrates.

    It seems to me as though the announced changes significantly undermine that strength. As many others have pointed out, even if individual colours are not huge sellers in their own right, they may be vital for mixing custom colours using the rest of the range.

    I respectfully request that the colours listed to be discontinued are in fact retained. (Speaking only for myself, I’d be happy to pay extra to still be able to buy the colours with lower sales volumes.)

  105. My dad is a color expert. Be is in his early 80’s and still in high demand in the ink world. He has helped me countless times when I was mixing my clay colors. He said zinc yellow us a key color for so many mixes that it will be a huge loss in the long run to remove that color. Furthermore it is impossible to mix colors without primaries so save Cobakt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green and copper too!!!!!

  106. I am a painter as well as one who loves to work with Polymer clay. I am dismayed at the thought of discontinuing colors that, as an artist, I am most familiar with. Please keep the colors artists are used to working with in your line.

  107. You cannot “mix” a primary color! Do not eliminate the three primary colors essential to artists! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green!!! I have only just begun to expand my work into polymer clay and had settled on Premo!, but am early enough in my work to change to a different clay. You WILL lose a loyal customer base with this change!

  108. Please reconsider your discontinuing of the primary colors. Polymer clay has worked hard to become an accepted medium in the art world and replacing true artist colors like zinc yellow and cobalt blue with “sunshine” and “denim” just takes all that progress made down a few notches. There are real artists out there in the polymer clay world who have made great strides with color mixing, discussing how colors relate to one another and how they work together to achieve certain palettes. You’re doing a great disservice to them.

  109. We need our primary colors. Without them- you are not going to see the beautiful creations that you see now. You will force us to use another brand to get these colors. We like Premo above the other brands, thats why its so upsetting to us. Please listen!

  110. I have been doing clay for years and use zink yellow and cobalt blue and the sea green in many of my projects. I think that the $ sign was the key factor and not the folks that will be using these colors. I will be amazed to see how you are able to mix a primary color. This company must some very creative folks on staff.

  111. This seems to be an announcement that Polyform is rejecting the arts market for the Crayola market. “Sunshine? Candy Pink? Rhino Gray?” Ugh.

    From discontinuing the Studio line and painterly primaries to pushing cartoon colors with cutesy names, they’ve cast their lot with what they perceive as a more profitable customer base. I don’t get it; isn’t one kiddie line (Sculpey) enough?

  112. Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green!
    Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green!!
    Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green!!!
    Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green!!!!
    Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green!!!!!
    Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green!!!!!!
    Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green!!!!!!!
    Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green!!!!!!!!
    Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green!!!!!!!!!
    Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green!!!!!!!!!!

    Polyform! Are you listening?

  113. There are crucial colors to any artist’s palette, in any medium. When you create a product that is presented in these basic, crucial colors, it’s imperative that you continue to support your product as it is.

    Otherwise, you’re going to find yourself with plenty of customers who intend to support another product entirely.

    Personally, I’ll be happy to switch my support to Kato unless this horrible decision is reversed.

  114. I am another diehard Premo user who relies on Cobalt Blue and Zinc Yellow, as well as the flourescents. Please, Polyform, don’t take away our primaries and flourescents. Although I look forward to some of the new colors, I would gladly give them up to keep my Cobalt Blue and Zinc Yellow and flourescents. None of these can be “mixed” from other colors. Smiles, Sue C

  115. Please, save these primary colors. Though I am more of an observer than a creator of polymer clay, my reading has shown that these colors of Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green are absolutely ESSENTIAL to every artist (and who knows how many don’t write blogs!). This field has come so far in the last 20 years–why would you choose to be the ones to set it back?

  116. If the rationale were simply getting rid of unpopular colors, I would be more understanding: it’s business. But I’m not convinced that cobalt blue and zinc yellow weren’t selling. It seems more likely that some beancounter figured that with ultramarine blue and cadmium yellow on the roster, the others wouldn’t be missed. Baloney! I use Kato more and more anyway and am likely to just switch from Premo altogether.

  117. I agree completely. While I think “in-colors” should be rotated in and out of palettes, the core colors, particularly primaries, need to be left in place. The primaries are the building blocks of everything else and without them, you’re definitely going to come up with some inconsistent results.

  118. Getting rid of zinc yellow and cobalt blue is crazy. Premo can be a bit soft and sticky for me, but the artist palette of colors kept me coming back. It is the main reason Premo is recommended in so many text books on polymer clay, and it is why I started using Premo. The fluorescents and Premo frost are great too.
    I’d love to hear the business case for this change!

  119. I love the addition of the new colors, but it is essential to keep the Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green. I have been a loyal Premo user, and don’t want these colors removed. If my voice or signature mean anything Polyform please pay heed to what your CUSTOMERS are saying. The neons add so much also. Please don’t disappoint your customers to the point of chasing them away.

  120. I cannot believe with all the artists that have promoted your product line and especially most of the colors scheduled to be discontinued, that you would not listen to our concerns and requests to keep these colors in your product line. This is why people end up switching brands and using a competitors product that at least understands the concerns of the ARTISTS that work with your product and not the one or two time school project consumer.

  121. !!! Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green !!!

    Premo is not my primary clay but I understand the necessity of maintaining vital colours which make up a traditional artists colour palette, especially when hundreds of colour recipes and whole books have been based on these colours.

    POLYFORM please rethink your decision.

  122. Please, what can Polyform be thinking? Keep the primaries and save the artists from insanity!
    Is Polyform THAT out of touch with its consumers?????

  123. I cannot believe that something so intrinsic to the development of colour palettes would be removed from sale. Is this a case of the “number crunchers” being in control?

    PLEASE do not remove these primary colours.

  124. Come on Polyform we have come a long way to be known as artists. Don’t send us back by taking the Primaries away from us. It would not be a wise business decision.

  125. This seems to be an “crafts” decision by some marketing “guru” with a “clay-doh” mentality. Allot of us are trying to raise this medium to an accepted art form with the emphasis on art, as such, the phrase “primary” means a building block for a plethora of other colors that are key to our expression. Save Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green, they are key elements in creation, ours artistically, and your future financially. I have sung the praises of Premo ever since I first started using it. Please do not ruin this product line by discontinuing the basic “spokes” of support on the color wheel.

  126. Please, please, please do not discontinue cobalt blue, zinc yellow and sea green. Those of us who are polymer clay artists NEED those in order to mix other colors in our palettes.

  127. I heard in my PC guild that they were also going to discontinue Premo Glow in the Dark, which is my favorite brand of glow in the dark clay. I want them to keep all the current colors, including glow in the dark, and add new ones as well. I love working with Premo and use it in many of my sculptures.
    -Michelle of CreativeCritters

  128. A.U.B. (please) NIET WEGDOEN (don’t remove), DEZE KLEUREN (those colours):
    Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green.

    BERICHT UIT HOLLAND (message from Holland)

  129. no…no….no…no….no….please no! don’t do it…please don’t do it. zinc yellow, cobalt blue and sea green….what are you thinking? don’t….don’t….

  130. These colours are part of the reason I use this brand of clay, and have been a faithful user for almost 20 years. how about returning the favor?

  131. hi
    sad day in beadland, when i hear about these changes. i am shocked about this news. i am a polymer clay artist living in the yukon, and have been working with premo for 10 years. these are primary colors, and i don’t think there is a recipe to make zinc yellow, for example, on your own..with other colours???
    i do a great deal of colour blending, and i have never inadvertently come up with zinc yellow when mixing. of the 40 colours i use, it is #3 on the list, based on the use of 5000 blocks of clay!
    and glow-in-the-dark…..that’s a hard one too! sculpey III is not strong enough for anything sculptural.
    what’s wrong with the existing artists’ palette?
    why are you doing this Polyform?

    sincerely
    lara melnik

  132. Looks like they’re keeping Zinc Yellow and Cobalt Blue at the very least. Check page five of their New Colors topic on FB: facebook.com/topic.php?uid=106551216055451&topic=456

    Of course this is after I said good-bye. I may reconsider, not entirely sure yet.

  133. Ok, Half a Victory is better than none. Cindy, is it at all possible that the green could be “formulated” with other colors since we don’t actually use the mineral pigments as in antiquity, as someone commenting on the polyform FB page made this point.

  134. Well done everyone!!…especially Cindy & Doug for allowing us to voice our concerns through this petition. After reading many insightful ideas makes me wonder who is guiding Polyform with their decisions? I think they could benefit greatly in hiring – as consultants, those who helped contribute so many brilliant comments this weekend!

  135. “HEAR THIS” – just received an e-mail from Polyform. They are going to continue making COBALT BLUE & ZINC YELLOW. We won round one. Nothing was mentioned about any other color(s). So on to round two. But this was good news. They are listening -at last……………

    I e-mailed polyform yesterday. Got the answer today. Got it? Go directly to Polyform !!!

  136. This is the message I received a few minutes ago from Polyform:

    “Dear Linda,
    Thank you for contacting Polyform Products Company and your interest in our products.
    Here’s the latest statement we have just posted on Facebook today, 11/22/10.
    Polyform has reviewed all of your heartfelt comments in reference to Premo Cobalt Blue and Premo Zinc Yellow. In response to your needs we are going to find a way to keep these colors available for you. We will work with distributors and will post the information as soon as we finalize it.
    To answer some of your other concerns:
    · Frost has been renamed White Translucent in order to clarify it’s color to new users. The color has not changed.
    · Copper has changed, there will be a color recipe to create the older version of this color. The new Copper color is closer to the color of a new copper penny.
    · The fluorescent colors have been discontinued. Two new colors, Wasabi and Candy Pink are quite bright and sure to make a “color pop” in your creations.
    · The recipes for discontinued colors, with the exception of the fluorescent colors, will be available. Many of the recipes use new colors so releasing the formulas now will not help you. We’ll release the formulas on January 3rd when the new colors are going to be available to ship.
    We are really excited about our new line of Premo Accents, Premo and Sculpey III, as we’re sure you will be. Designers who have already used these colors are singing their praises. They’re on trend, as well as colors designers have requested.
    Your comments were heard, your loyalty appreciated. If there is anything else I can help you with, please contact me again.”

    While I can appreciate the response and am grateful that Polyform will be keeping Zinc Yellow and Cobalt Blue…and happy that Frost is simply being renamed…I am very disappointed that they did not relent on Sea Green (my favorite color), Red & Green Pearl, Copper, or the fluorescent colors.

    Note that they say, “Many of the recipes use new colors so releasing the formulas now will not help you.” So their plan is to make us buy more clay to mix the colors that we have had in the past…and this also means an extra step in our work if we want those colors.

  137. Yes… good news! Our outcry has saved Cobalt Blue and Zinc Yellow from extinction. YAY!!! However, as Linda K. stated above, Sea Green was not mentioned in Polyform’s recent update announcement. So I’ve sent off a letter to Iris at Polyform about that.

    I really want to send a BIG THANK YOU TO EVERYONE for adding your supportive voices to this petition! We were able to make a difference because of the banding together of this wonderful Polymer Clay Community and the general Crafting Community as well.

    Speaking of support from the crafting community, Jenny Rohrs of Craft Test Dummies wrote a fantastic article of support for our effort to SAVE Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow and Sea Green! Although Jenny works with almost all forms of craft mediums, she has a soft spot in her heart for polymer clay. So when she asked if she could help I said, “…OF COURSE!”

    As well there were many other’s in the Blogging World who rallied for this important cause. Here are are all the links that I know of… listed in Alphabetical order:

    Amy Crawley – Musings from the Moonroom
    Angela Mabray – Crafty Goat
    Carol Simmons – Carol Simmons Designs
    Chris Dembinski – Crafts By Chris
    Connie Massie – Desert Wind Designs
    Cynthia Tinapple – Polymer Clay Daily
    Deborah Steinmetz – Deborah’s Daily Dish
    Jenny Rohrs – Craft Test Dummies
    Lindly Haunani – Co-Author, “Color Inspirations”
    Montreal Polymer Clay Guild – Groupe bilingue de polyméristes
    Niki – Positively Charming Things
    Nora Jean – CITY-o-Clay Forum
    Penny Vingoe – Clayaround Email Newsletter
    PolymerClayCentral – Community Forum
    Susan Averello – Fantasy Clay
    Tonja Lenderman – Polyclay Corner
    Vancouver PolyClayers – Members Forum

    If I have missed anyone… my apologies. Please let me know and I will add you to the resource list. It was fantastic to see the crafting/art community banding together like this! THANK YOU!

  138. I just heard, too! Great news! Now, can we get them to change their minds about Sea Green?? Let us hope so!! The power of words! Amazing!!

  139. Hi Cindy, I am adding my comment to your list I was glad to hear they have changed their mind about two of the most important colours cobalt blue and zinc yellow I just hope we can change their minds about sea green which is the green I use most. Being supposedly based on an artists pallette which is how it was formerly advertised was the main reason I chose Premo in the first place. My daughter uses a lot of green pearl in her sculptures so she was disappointed to hear it was being cut too.

  140. Sea Green is such a beautiful colour! I use it all the time and would really miss it! Please don’t take it away from the people who support your business.

  141. Having just made the change to Studio Sculpey and then had it discontinued, the threat of future deletions from the Premo colour range makes me think it might be better to abandon Polyform products altogether. Changing over is not simple, or cheap, and as someone above pointed out, the more WE users have to do the blending, the more clay blocks we have to buy, and of course the longer it takes us to do the job. Which direction do you wish to push us Polyform?

  142. Whoa! Crisis averted before I knew there was a crisis! Thanks to all of you for saving our colors. I’ve been busy with work (and claying) and didn’t even know this was going on. I was happy to read that “Frost has been renamed White Translucent in order to clarify it’s color to new users. The color has not changed.” I buy pounds of Frost. But Sea Green is still in limbo, I’d better stock up. I am, however, excited about some of the new colors.

  143. I’m actually rather excited about the new copper color. The one we have now never quite worked for me – too red and dark. I do have to admit I used it (and became disenchanted with it) before I went to the Lietz Academy of Color Mixing. I may have eventually learned to make a special blend that I liked. Oh well…
    Just need to get that yellow fluorescent back…

  144. I too am disappointed about the company dropping those most important colors… Cobalt Blue, Zinc Yellow, and Sea Green are some of the most used colors in the pallet. I hope the company keeps those colors.

  145. I have been working with Premo clay for countless years. To discontinue Cobalt Blue and Zinc Yellow would be a major blow to my business, Do you realize, some of the polymer clay artists out there, don’t just “play” with the clay. we have businesses that are dependent on a TRUE color pallette.
    I don’t think this decision was finalized by someone in the ART Department affiliated with your company. It is not always about Development of new products, but Research into the products that are needed by the art “business” community. You may see on paper that these colors are not selling as well, but please keep in mind that mainly artists are purchasing these primary colors, not children for school projects. Thank you for reconsidering. My artwork is very important to myself and my clients.

  146. I, too, am very disappointed that Polyform chose to discontine zinc yellow and cobalt blue. I just finished printing out all of Cindy’s color mixing cards and making chips for them. The company should listen to their customers.
    Cris

  147. I am copying this message I wrote as I think word needs to get around about this. The publicing of the news is so conviently in Xmas time that I am afraid people will miss this if we do not intentionally spread the word.

    I stumbled into polymer clay express blog
    pce-artway.blogspot.com/2010/12/clay-news.html

    where there is a text “Great News!!!
    We will be carrying Zinc Yellow and Cobalt Blue Premo throughout 2011!! We are one of three companies that will be doing so. ”

    so when polyform promised that they will continue those colours they actually, IMO, lied. There is no promis about continuing then further and also this this does not help my situation a bit as I am selling clay for my customers in Finland and not buying it retale for my own use. I am dissapointed and this truly ruins my xmas :(

    This is what I posted to polyforms facebook page
    facebook.com/pages/Polyform-Products/106551216055451

    “I just readed from polymer clay express that actually, on contrary to your promise, you are NOT going to make the cobolt blue and zinc yellow available to all customers as we here in europe that are selling the clay are not going to buy your clay from retalers.

    I am dissapointed on your desicion and I think you lied when you tried to convince the audience that you are “keeping” the zinc yellow and cobolt blue. “

  148. It’s my opinion that Polyform has responded to the outcry about eliminating primary colors from the Premo line, BUT ONLY TEMPORARILY and only to avert a sudden and precipitous financial downturn. I’ve not read anything from Polyform that explains the reasoning behind their decisions. Is it a secret? Or don’t they think artists deserve that kind of respect? Or, are we being manipulated (like what happens in politics)?
    This makes me even more disgusted! I don’t trust them now, and like many others will use much more Kato. Donna cares and listens and has successfully created a wonderful clay. I’d rather spend more time “activating” Kato clay than buying more of Premo to mix what was formerly available.

    • @Pörrö: I think you have a point about Premo’s message being a lie, or like Irene Hll said, it’s just something temporary to keep us from finding out the truth…so we don’t turn to a different product, like Kato.

      I don’t like being manipulated, either, and I agree that with the timing of this over the holidays, many people will have missed the bad news that their colors are gone. Even if they know now, they probably didn’t feel the “fear” during those few days when we didn’t know if we’d be able to get the primary colors or not. That was really a scary time, and I’m sure it changed the devotion of many clayers away from Polyform! It’s a shame they didn’t test this decision first, or ask for their customer’s opinion on such an important issue as removing primary colors from their “artist palette”! It’s ridiculous, & a really rotten thing they did to us. I feel especially bad for all of the people like you who will be effected. I’m a clayer, but it’s not my “business”…so it’s not the same for me. Still, that’s not to say I’m not completely angry about what Polyform did!

      I’m afraid that after the pretty new colors are unveiled, the harsh reality will settle in and they will find out that we do not trust them so much anymore. I think we should keep reminding them about this bad business decision, too, so that will hesitate before making crazy changes in the future…at least before talking to the artists who use their clay — that is, if there are any left!

  149. Welcome Michele!

    Think they saved only the blue and yellow, and came out with a new basic green.

    Boy, we sure tried. What an outcry from the polymer clay community. Omitting that sea green will cause a lot of work reformulating recipes and I feel is a slap in the face to all artists. I dislike that they dropped the “glow” stuff too.

    I keep up with product lines through Facebook, since I am there most, “liking” sites causes updates to show up on your wall as they happen. If you do, pls add Cindy’s site, too. Great pics over there.

    For all, a great link is: sculpey.com/products/clays/translucent-liquid-sculpey

    It shows their complete product line, addresses current issues, and is a fun read.

    Hope this helps.

    • @Lindly Haunani: Thanks Lindly! It’s an informative article. You are so right about Denim and Sunshine not being replacements for Cobalt and Zinc Yellow. They are pretty but they just don’t have the mixing qualities that the true primaries have.

      If Polyform is unwilling to fully bring Cobalt Blue and Zinc Yellow (and the others like Sea Green and Violet) back, the least that they could do is put them in Artist Master Packs like I suggested some time back. They did make some multi-packs of Classic colors, metallic, pearls, etc. but unfortunately left out these key components to the artist’s palette.

      As well, the one pound blocks could be made available in a select few online locations for the artists that use larger volumes of those particular colors. This solution would mean that the stores would not have to carry large quantities of less popular colors and the artists as well as the general population would still have access to all the colors they need.

      It has been more than six months since first hearing about this, and I am still pretty torn and frustrated by this situation. On one hand I love the new colors and so do my students. Anything that draws the beginner into the fabulous world of polymer clay color is a good thing. But to tie the artists hands by removing key colors for their palette, is unbearable. Insane really!

      I do hope that we are able to shift their mindset get the colors returned.It would be a shame to lose the foundation of what has been built and have to start again somewhere else.

  150. I know as an artist who loves oil paints, cobalt blue is expensive to buy because it is made from a very pure pigment. I imagine the discontinuations that are being talked about are economically based. All the pigments –except for the sea green, i don’t know what that consists of– are made with pigments that are pure and expensive. If the green contains veridian, then it is also expensive. I would rather pay the price and have a quality color that mixes well with anything than to find out it’s not available. I can’t imagine if the manufacturers of oil paint decided to drop the most beautiful and striking colors from their selections. There would be a uprising of some kind. I keep cobalt blue in supply because it makes the most beautiful colors and blends on the canvas. It’s the same with all the pure pigments. They should be made available to us forever!!!
    Maidensolo

  151. Hi Cindy, Know you are busy and I don’t know if you have found out that Premo Polymer clay in Colbalt Blue and Zinc Yellow is back. It is not sold in all stores but I e-mailed Sculpey customer service about these two colors because they are so important to color mixing and being a primary color why was it discontinued. I found out it has not been discontinued they still have the colors but only a few places have them. She was nice enough and gave me a list of places that have the colors….

    http://www.sculpeyproducts.com
    http://www.creativewholesale.com
    http://www.munrocraft.com
    http://www.polymerclayexpress.com

    These 4 are the only places she said order zinc yellow and colbalt blue and right now sculpey products is having a sale of there Premo clay at $1.54

    You may already know this but I thought I would pass it along if you didn’t. I read all the up roar from 2011 when they announced that they were no longer going to make these colors and all the letters worked and convinced them to keep the colors… just not in big stores so your people saved them. It worked people don’t believe me the POWER OF THE PEN can mean something.

    Well back to mixing.
    Sandy

    • Thanks Sandy! I was just looking, on the web, about the discontinued colors! It is nice to see they are still “somewhat” available. I was checking my stash and I only have 5 blocks left of cobalt blue!

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