Polymer Clay Tutor Publishing Changes and 5th Friday Flip

Polymer Clay Tutor 5th Friday October will
definitely NOT be a
normal month here in
Polymer Clay Tutorville.”

~Cindy Lietz

No the sky isn’t falling or anything like that. But some other business matters have come up for Doug (my DH) that will require his full attention over the next 7 days. And since Doug is basically the engine that runs this blog, there will be no posts from October 5 through to October 11, inclusive.

It is a good time for this to happen since there are 5 Fridays to work with during the current month, instead of the normal four.

So… that means all the Volume-029 tutorials WILL still get published… but just in a bit of a different order. Here is the updated publishing schedule:

  • October 01, 2010: Vol-029-1 (already published)
  • October 08, 2010: No Video or Color Recipe Cards (5th Friday)
  • October 15, 2010: Vol-029-2
  • October 22, 2010: Vol-029-3
  • October 29, 2010: Vol-029-4

Normally we plan for the 5th Friday to happen at the end of the month, but as you can see on this go round, it will play out a bit different.

On these 5th Friday’s as many of you already know, there are no new videos or A-series color recipe cards published over at members library. And no B-series color recipes cards either.

And for those of you who did not know that… now you do :-)

Doug will require a lot of support from me over the next week, so my time and attention here, will also be very limited.

If I could request that everyone hold on to your questions and customer support issues until at least October 12 (later if possible to allow some time for us to do the “ACK-look-at-all-the-things-that piled-up” catch up thing), that would be greatly appreciated.

And I would also really appreciate it if all of you regulars would keep an extra watchful eye on that right side bar for questions that come up in older threads. There likely won’t be too many since no new publishing will be happening from October 5th through to October 11th (7 days in total). Can you believe it??? It’s kind of like we’ll be on vacation (I wish :-).

What you all could do during the down time is get some more of your bead and jewelry project photos uploaded to the Facebook Gallery page. I will be doing a draw for another grand prize winner early in November (fair warning :-).

Anyways, thanks everyone for your understanding and support over the next 7 days. Have a great week!!!


Cindy Lietz SignaturePolymer Clay Tutor


  1. Joyce M, 04 October, 2010

    Cindy, the “Search” button in the upper left corner should keep us all busy while you and Doug are doing what is necessary. There is so much material there, since 2008, that I know I can keep busy and learn. You will be in my thoughts (as usual) as I do this. So all I need do is put in my “word”, hit the search button and away I go….Love and hugs to all of you

  2. Elizabeth S., 04 October, 2010

    May this be a good week for you and Doug. Joyce is right. It will be the perfect opportunity to catch up on the vast amount of material in the library, blog, etc.

    Hugs to you both,

  3. Tanya L, 04 October, 2010

    Hope everything goes smoothly for you guys, Cindy! Best of luck to Doug (and you!). Catching up sounds great!!! :)

  4. Lupe Meter, 04 October, 2010

    Have a good week Cindy and Doug! I will try and work on some more of your tutes before then (which I haven’t yet). Have fun!

  5. Maria, 04 October, 2010

    Ooops, just posted something on another blog before I saw the above blog… sorry… just really needed some support from my polymer clay brothers and sisters…

  6. Ken H, 04 October, 2010

    We’ll miss you but understand completely, Take care of RL and we’ll all be here next week eagerly awaiting our next lesson.

  7. DJ, 04 October, 2010

    On the bright side, we get the 5th Friday out of the way early! ;0) You will be missed Cindy, but I do hope everything goes well for you and Doug while you’re away.
    See ya soon!!

  8. DawnB, 04 October, 2010

    Cindy and Doug, Lot’s of positive thoughts for everything to go smoothly for you this week. Don’t worry about us. You’ve given us more than enough to keep us busy. We’ll talk amongst ourselves. MUCH appreciation to you both!

  9. Mary, 04 October, 2010

    Very best wishes to Team Lietz this week. Go get ’em, Tiger! XX Mary

  10. Marlene, 05 October, 2010

    Best of everything to you and Doug, Cindy. Can’t say that I am too disappointed that this is the 5th week. My son is getting married on the 9th, so am not going to have much claying time this week either. Will be looking forward to catching up with you after the 12th!

  11. Cherie, 05 October, 2010

    I posted yesterday and it did not show up. I noticed I posted somewhere else too and that did not show up either. I wonder what happened? Anyone else ever had that happen?
    Have a good week Cindy and Doug. Thanks for all you do and good luck with Doug’s work.

  12. Lisa Whitham, 05 October, 2010

    Hope you two have a good week and everything turns out the way you want it to… You will be missed..!!

    ~Lisa :)

  13. Peggy Barnes, 05 October, 2010

    A day late but always thinking of the two of you. Whatever your secret mission is I hope you have a great adventure and maybe even an hour or two of private quiet time. (a mini vacation) You are in my thoughts. Don’t forget to have some fun. AND SMILE!!!
    Patiently waiting for the 12th. Till then sending the two of you many many
    Uuuuuuugggggggs, Peggy
    You will both be greatly missed.

  14. Linda K., 05 October, 2010

    Good luck with whatever you need to take care of next week, Cindy & Doug. I hope it’s at least part pleasure.

  15. Phaedrakat, 06 October, 2010

    I, too, hope that the Leitz’s are able to enjoy their “downtime” this week. I’m wondering what is happening, as well. Maybe something to do with the “fix” that they’ve been waiting on(?) Anyway, I haven’t been able to visit lately…so the timing on this has worked out well for me, too. I don’t have a wonderful reason like Marlene’s, though — Congrats on your son’s wedding!

    I hope everyone has a lovely week, and that we still “talk amongst ourselves”, (like Dawn said,) either here or at Facebook. As Joyce said, there’s lots of information here to keep us busy…some cool posts from “before our time” or just articles we may not have had time to read for one reason or other. Have fun everyone…and I wish you the best of luck with everything, dear Cindy & Doug!

  16. Marlene, 10 October, 2010

    @Phaedrakat: Thanks for the kind wishes. The wedding was beautiful, if only slightly delayed, but then thats par for the course. All out of towners have left, so its back to the pasta machine (after I return the tuxes).

  17. Marsha, 06 October, 2010

    I just love the community here! Take care of yourselves, Cindy & Doug, and all our friends here!

  18. Denise, 07 October, 2010

    I’m still new enough that I haven’t had time to learn nearly as much as I want to learn, but I may still go through withdrawals!!! Sounds like a good time to go ahead an order another back issue I’ve had my eye on, lol

  19. Stephanie Bargelski, 07 October, 2010

    Thanks for the heads up Cindy. I always miss you when it is a 5th Friday!! I have lots to keep my busy! Love to you both!!

  20. pamagela, 07 October, 2010

    Buon tutto, grazie anche da parte mia attenderò il Vs ritorno
    un abbraccio

  21. Charline Ahlgreen, 07 October, 2010

    Take all the time you need – we won’t panic (much) and will support each other while you’re supporting your DH. As I always tell the people I work with – “Family comes first. Work will always be here when you get back to it.”


  22. fran, 07 October, 2010

    We’ll just appreciate you that much more when you come back.

  23. Jayne Shankle, 07 October, 2010

    Lot’s of love to you guys!!!!!!

  24. Maria, 07 October, 2010

    Arrghh… this is so hard… is it the 11th yet? Cindy and Doug we miss you!

  25. Diana, 07 October, 2010

    My sentiments are in agreement with Maria. You are a good wife and a good team. Hope all goes well and lol.

  26. Loretta Carstensen, 07 October, 2010

    Hope all goes well for you two this next week. I will miss your tutoring this week, but, as you know, I have many back lessons that I recently purchased, and will busy my time with learning “new” projects. We all Look forward to the next video!

  27. carolyn, 07 October, 2010

    Wow! How great it is to see so many new (to me) names above! Cindy is just like a magnet, drawing people to her and her tutorials from all over the world. This is so great – and we are a wonderful community.

  28. Elizabeth K., 08 October, 2010

    Hi all, Hi Cindy
    I truly understand, best laid plans!. There is always something to get in the way, but with what we have in our reportoire we can keep busy til you are back on deck. All the best for your week, Cindy and Doug.
    Elizabeth K.

  29. Becky C., 08 October, 2010

    Hi: I know this is probably not the place to post this, but I am new so I hope you will forgive me. Just wanted to make a comment about clays. I am spanking new to all this and started with Premo, which I was quite happy with, but have a couple of Donna Kato’s books (which I love) and so decided to try her clay. Well. I got the workout of my life today. I was toying with trying to mix my own colors to save money, but it would kill me eventually, I am sure. I hit it with the poly roller, stood up and mashed it down, pasta machined it, everything short of putting it in the street and running over it with the car. Wow, what a hard clay! I read a tip, I think it was in glassattic.com, about someone putting it in the microwave for a few seconds, but I think it needed more than that, but I was afraid to burn it or ruin the microwave. So, a question: Is the main reason people use Kato Polyclay for canes because Premo is softer? Couldn’t I just use Premo and put it in the freezer for a few minutes before I cut the cane? I sure liked the idea of Kato Polyclay, but I don’t think I have the strength left in me to use it. Thanks in advance for any comments.

  30. Sharon B., 12 October, 2010

    @Becky C.:
    Hi, Becky. I have some oooooold Katoclay and, boy, is it firm! I have a mini-bench vise that I bought at a local store, and it was perfect for squishing the clay into submission. (If you have a regular sized vise attached to a workbench, that will also work (better, of course). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ViceBench-insetSoftJaws.jpg . I placed my clay between the jaws and gave the bar a few turns until I couldnt turn any more (or the clay confessess — ha ha). Then I loosened the bar and placed the clay in another direction, eventually working it from front to back, and then top to bottom. I’m sure you get the idea. Several days later, the clay still had some ‘give’ to it. There are some who like to “whack” the clay with a hammer, but why expend all that energy (and possibly injure your arm) when you can simply twist that bench vise? I think that it’s the _compression_ that works, not necessarily the vibration from pounding on it.

    Good luck!


  31. carolyn, 08 October, 2010

    @Becky C.: Welcome, Becky, we are all glad that you joined us. As an FYI, You’re OK ’cause Fridays are anything days … and especially 5th Fridays, which is coming sooner this month – in fact it is today!

    Yes, Kato, is a stiffer clay. You could add a little Mold Maker (when I say little I mean little – recently I added some and ended up with mush!). Another thing is to use a liquid clay conditioner. Donna Kato has one called Liquide Polyclay. It has many uses, but one of them is to soften clay.

    Or you could do like Ken H. and let the trolley run over it, but he says it is pretty hard to scrape it off the rails without getting run over. Tee Hee!

  32. Becky C., 08 October, 2010

    Lol, that trolley would be a little excessive! So, do you mix the Liquid Polyclay with the cut up clay in a food processor? Is that the easiest way (I guess)? Thank you for that info! When you say a “little” Mold Maker, if, for example, I was using a half a 2-ounce block, how much would you add? I appreciate the response, Carolyn!

  33. Elizabeth K., 08 October, 2010

    @Becky C.:
    hi Becky
    firstly if you are so new to Polyclay, it may help to buy Cindys first Videos for
    Beginners. Might cost but worth every penny. Even tho we have books its great to get the video gen from Cindy.
    No I say dont put any Polyclay in your Microwave. not at that stage anyway. You would cook it not soften it.
    I find if I wrap it in Gladwrap, the plastic ,lunch stuff, and hit it with a Hammer you will find it will break up enough to use it in your pasta machine
    I do this all the time with my stiff clay. Yes Dona Kato clay is stiffer than any other.
    I dont use it
    Premo is more forgiving.
    I also use a drop of Machine or baby oil to soften. Also the mould maker is good to mix in. A very small ball of it will soften a fair amount of clay.
    Anyway it is all a learning process for all of us no matter how long we have been at this.
    hope that helps

  34. Becky C., 09 October, 2010

    Thank you, Elizabeth, for you very helpful answers! Yes, I do want to buy Cindy’s beginner series, hopefully next payday…been spending too much money on clay and fun stuff to work it with! I just love her tutorials and I am thrilled I found this site. It has been so helpful to me. I might try a little of the mineral oil before I run out and buy something else and try your method of wrapping in Gladwrap and beating it, too. My hands are numb from the day’s attempts at conditioning this clay, lol.

  35. Phaedrakat, 09 October, 2010

    @Becky C.: Hi Becky, welcome! While everyone is throwing “tips” at you, I wanted to add one more. Use the search box at the top of the page to find info on anything you need. Example, type “stiff clay” “soften clay” “Kato hard to condition”…anything along those lines. You’ll get a list of articles on those topics, as well as posts where these things were mentioned in the comments/Q & A (an answer from Cindy or another member.) Sue F., an experienced member who submits Kato color palette recipes from time to time, is a huge fan of Kato clay. She has posted lots of advice about using Kato, including her favorite way to condition it. Try the search box to find it (if you come upon a long list of comments in a post, you can hit Control + F and type in a keyword to quickly search for the right place on the page.) If you have a lot of trouble finding it, I’ll try to look it up for you tomorrow (headed to bed now…rather late here in Riverside, California!) Best of luck, and nice to have you around!
    ~Kat *Where are you from?

  36. Peggy Barnes, 09 October, 2010

    @Becky C.: Welcome Becky it is so nice to hear from new people. I have trouble with my hands and wrists but I do prefer Kato for canes. I think if you have a lot of delicate lines in your cane Kato helps keep them sharper. My preferred method is a heavier freezer bag left open so the air can escape. I have a fairly large size rubber mallet and I proceed to hammer the dickens out of my clay for 2-3 minutes then I just start running it thru my pasta machine which I do have a motor on because of my wrists and I also make sure to keep the temp a little warmer in my room when working with Kato also. One last Thing in between working with my sheets of clay I have a heating pad I set on low then put a towel on top of it put my sheets down on the towel and another towel on top just keeping it lightly warm. This helps keep it easier to work with also. Yes I am kind of a goofy person but it works that is all that counts as far as I am concerned. I hope you enjoy it here as much as the rest of us.
    Uuuuuugggggs Peggy USA – Iowa Where are you from or did I miss that part?

  37. Elizabeth kerr, 11 October, 2010

    @Peggy Barnes:
    Hi Peggy
    I have been looking thru all the conditioning advise to Becky re Kato clay.
    I like some of your suggestions too.
    I have some DK CLY. know it is very good for clear lines, but have never liked using it too much as it is harder to condition.
    Well I like your suggstions as to using your mallet, as I do,glad someone else does that too.It works for me.I too have a motorised Pasta Machine which I love, also have a hand one too.
    I will try your suggestion about the heating pad, sounds good too.
    I have to send away for Premo and Fimo amd DK as all we get here is Sculpey, which just about conditions itself,so soft, but is not the real top clay, altho useful.
    All the Best


  38. Elizabeth K., 11 October, 2010

    @Becky C.:
    Hi again Becky,
    You should read everything you can on polyclay, it is all of interest and it helps you learn more. that is where I as over 5 yrs ago.
    I am still learnig hence being here with Cindy.
    The method of using a hammer is explained in an article by Garie Sim of Singapore.
    So put that name in Google and you will find it. Go to his Shop page and scroll down til you see How to soften 20yr old clay.
    Im sure that will help.
    Certainly as Caroline said some people cant use a hammer with weak hands so dont try it, but it works for me every time.

  39. Phaedrakat, 09 October, 2010

    @Becky: I didn’t go straight to bed (and I’m gonna be soooo sleepy tomorrow!) Here’s one of the posts where lots of Kato clay conditioning tips were mentioned… Pansy Flower Spring Color Palette, Kato Color Recipes.

    Have fun!

  40. Becky C., 09 October, 2010

    Thank you so much, Phaedrakat. I tried a search, but I think I did it in the wrong place…silly me. I will definitely try again using your information. I had noticed Sue F.’s Kato clay colors and that is very helpful. I am from Georgia, north of Atlanta. Almost not hot here right now, lol.

    Thanks again! I love everyone’s comments about the tutorials, etc. And for Ms. Cindy, love her tuts! Very easy to understand and follow along. Thanks to everyone welcoming me here!

  41. Jocelyn, 09 October, 2010

    Welcome Becky!

    Here’s the link to Donna’s free tut showing her conditioning her own clay:


  42. carolyn, 09 October, 2010

    @Becky: Sure hope we haven’t upset you by “throwing'” tips at you.

  43. Sue F, 10 October, 2010

    Hi Becky

    Firstly, welcome! :)

    I don’t normally soften my Kato — I find hard clays a lot easier to work with than soft clays — but I’ve occasionally done so, for example for extruding.

    If you want to soften Kato Polyclay using Kato Clear Medium (i.e. Kato liquid polymer clay), the best approach I’ve found is to roll the Kato Polyclay thinly, smear a VERY thin layer of Kato Clear Medium all over it, and then leave it for a while (at least 10 minutes; I often leave it for 30) before folding it Kato Clear Medium side in and feeding it through the pasta machine until it’s all incorporated. If you use too much Kato Clear Medium at once it’ll just make a mess of your pasta machine, and it won’t blend in easily either.

    That paragraph assumes you can actually roll your stiff Kato Polyclay thinly in the first place, of course! ;D There’s a bit of a knack to conditioning Kato in preparation for this. Elizabeth K has already described one common approach — hitting it with a hammer, which is often called “Jana Whack” method — but I personally haven’t found that as effective as an approach that I first saw on Over the Rainbow’s web site. Phaedrakat has linked the blog topic that it’s mentioned in (thanks, Phaedrakat!), but in case it’s hard to pick out from the other info, the original process is described here:


    It’s the same process than Donna Kato describes in the free clay conditioning tutorial that Jocelyn posted a link to earlier.

    My version of it is here (this goes to a specific comment in the topic that Phaedrakat posted a link to earlier):

    If that doesn’t work for you, or if you still can’t conveniently roll your stiff Kato thinly, try chopping it up into smallish pieces with a clay blade, putting them all into a large ziplock bag, squirting in some Kato Clear Medium, zipping the bag shut, and then manipulating the clay inside the bag until whatever softening agent you used is well incorporated. Doing this inside a ziplock bag saves a LOT of mess, believe me! It’s a pretty good hand workout, so if you can manage the previously-described approach you’ll probably find it a lot easier.

    You can also try petroleum jelly or baby oil as a softening agent, as well as various clay softeners. Just be careful with this, and maybe try it only only a bit first, as some of them will make your Kato crack when it’s cured.

    You can blend Kato with a softer clay too to get an intermediate consistency. I’ve mixed Kato and Premo in various proportions successfully, and it doesn’t seem to cause cracking like some products that are softeners rather than clays in their own right do.

    Kato Polyclay had a minor formulation change relatively recently too, which makes it a bit softer than it used to be. Still firmer than average Premo — the new, “soft” Kato is more or less the same consistency of the stiffest, oldest blocks of Premo that I have — but it is noticeably different. It sounds like you might have the older, stiffer formulation though. (I definitely prefer the older, stiffer version myself, but I think most people will!)

    Even though I’m a Kato die-hard, and I used and liked it right from the beginning, I do think Premo is probably a better clay for most people to work with while they get started with polymer clay.

    That leads me on to one final suggestion to use up your Kato without having to go to too much trouble making it behave: Cindy has a great tutorial on a technique which she calls Jupiter Beads, where you deliberately want some hard clay and some soft clay (e.g. some Kato and some Premo). Using a bit of unconditioned or barely conditioned clay in that technique is fine too, I’ve found; it all helps create much more interesting patterns than you’d get if the component clays were all about the same consistency. You can see a preview of that tutorial at the following link: Jupiter Beads

    And on your original question about caning with Premo, firmness isn’t only a benefit for when you cut the cane; it’s probably even more important for retaining fine detail when the cane is reduced, but whether that actually matters or not will depend on the types of canes you want to make. While you’re getting started and experimenting, use whatever clay you’re most comfortable working with. Premo is OK for canes; I’d just suggest letting your assembled canes rest for at least half an hour before you start reducing them, to help minimise blurring, distortion, and clay wastage at the ends. (Although there are so many uses for “scrap” clay like cane ends that I never have enough… I have to deliberately “make” clay scraps! LOL)

    Have fun!


  44. Sue F, 10 October, 2010

    Hm. In that comment above, I meant to say that while I prefer the older, stiffer Kato formulation, I think most people will prefer the newer, softer Kato. That bit seems not to have made it to my keyboard. ;)

  45. Becky C., 10 October, 2010

    Lol, Sue…I understood what you meant and know how certain words seem to be *deleted* by the keyboard! Those were all great tips and I really appreciate you taking the time to tell me. I may indeed have the “older” Kato clay as it was very crumbly and took forever to condition enough to even feed into the pasta machine. I type for a living (medical language specialist), so you would think my fingers and hands are strong, but in this case, no. I seriously am toying with the idea of encasing a block of the clay in several plastic bags and running over them with my car! Sounds much easier than whacking the clay, too, although the whacking might be great therapy! I certainly will try the clear medium addition as you suggested, and I never would have known to let that rest first, so thank you!

    I did finally manage to get some of the clay conditioned the other day and made one of Donna’s “squiggly beads” from one of her books. It turned out just beautiful! And hard! So, I do think this is a very good clay once you get it conditioned. I just figured there had to be an easier way rather than taking an hour or more just to condition a little bit.

    So, thank you again so much! I love this site and love Cindy’s tutorials I have so far. The blogs are very helpful, too, indeed.


  46. Sue F, 10 October, 2010

    @Becky C.: A case of my fingers going faster than my brain, probably. ;)

    If you haven’t already done so, have a look at that Donna Kato conditioning tutorial link that Jocelyn posted, or the equivalent textual conditioning description at the link I posted from Over the Rainbow (polymerclay.com.au).

    It should only take a few minutes to condition about half a block of Kato… as long as you’re not folding it straight away like you might when conditioning other brands, because if you are you’ll probably spend about 15 minutes swearing at clay crumbs while you try to get them to stick together!

    Try it the way described in that tutorial (it’s much more effective than the whacking approach), and see how long it takes and what consistency you get at the end: you might not even have to worry about the liquid clay and waiting for it to be absorbed a bit for easier incorporation. It only takes me slightly longer to condition Kato than Premo, and my personal opinion is that once conditioned the firmer clay is easier to handle because it doesn’t flop, stick, or pick up fingerprints. But definitely try a few brands and see which you like best; I’m probably just too impatient to work with soft clay. :D

    Congratulations on tackling Donna’s squiggly beads too! Kato Polyclay is good for achieving the crisp, fine lines in that project — I think I have the same book — but now that you know what to do, you could always try it with Premo next and see how the two clays compare. (I’m a big believer in experimentation. Which probably drove my parents to distraction…)

  47. Becky C., 10 October, 2010

    I know what you mean about parents and experimentation…my son, who is soon to be 26, says “You spent HOW MUCH on clay and stuff???”, so he thinks he is my boss/parent now, lol.

    I ordered some of the Kato clay concentrates today, so I am ready to be serious about using the Kato clay, Sue. I followed Jocelyn’s link and watched the video. I am pretty sure I see what to do. I was trying to condition the clay like the Premo I started with, but it just was having none of that! I did love the crisp lines in the squiggly beads I made, so I am full of hope I will have more luck today!

    Thanks again for everyone’s help. You are all too kind….

  48. Sue F, 10 October, 2010

    Good luck with taming that clay, Becky!

    I think you’ll like the Kato Concentrates when they arrive. You can mix beautifully vibrant pearlescent colours with them, and they’re great for extra intensity in normal colours too.

  49. DMC, 10 October, 2010

    Hello Lawrence, Carolyn, and anyone else,

    Lawrence if you got my last email . . . your solution was working great, but now it won’t. I again, can not retrieve any back issues of the “B” series of color palettes. Now when I click on BACK-ISSUES, then add the 026-1b after the /, . . . I get the following message:

    404 Error: Not Found
    Oops! You have clicked on a link that requires a log-in password or that you have not yet purchased access to.

    Before I start all of this, I put in my Username and Password as I have always done in past years. Any suggestions to solve this? Perhaps the blog is not working in certain areas right now?

    Thanks again everyone for all your kind assistance, and to take the time to assist me in this silly little problem.

  50. Phaedrakat, 11 October, 2010

    @DMC: Hi there! I tried to reply to you earlier, but for some reason there was no comment box on that page. I tried everything to get one–strangest thing–I could see a comment box on every other post! Weird…

    Anyway, unless there’s something new going on…the only way to get the B-Series color recipes is via the weekly newsletters (as Linda K. mentioned at the other post.) Have you been getting these in your email all along? They have links to the recipes on them, as well as a link to the weekly video. Or do you just log in on Fridays to get your weekly tutorials?

    The reason I ask is I’m trying to figure out why you don’t have this palette already. You’ve been around a long time…did you just not save the recipes…or did you never get them to begin with? Sorry for the questions…I’m trying to help — don’t want you to miss out on any other cool palettes! :D

    Cindy has left replies to the “B-Series” question all over the blog (popular topic, LOL!) The link at the end of this comment leads to one. She says making them available is on her “to-do” list, so I’m hoping it will happen soon. The California Poppy Palette really IS beautiful (one of my faves!) so I hope you’re able to find it. But if not, the B-color recipes do get cycled around a 2nd time. I wish you the best of luck! ~Kat

    One of Cindy’s “B-Series” comments:

  51. DMC, 12 October, 2010


    Hi and thank you for trying to help, ask all the questions you need to, not a problem.

    I receive all the newsletters, emails, etc. The problem is I have been ill for a while and I wasn’t able to save any of the “B” series color palettes. So, I thought there was a way to retrieve them. But, if it is on Cindy’s to do list, then I will just have to wait till she has time to make this change.

    Thank again,

  52. carolyn, 10 October, 2010

    @DMC: You may have the same problem that I had a long while ago. It would not hold my username and password … and then it didn’t recognize my password. Only Cindy could get be squared around on this … well, maybe it was Doug …. want to give credit where credit is due!~

  53. Jocelyn, 10 October, 2010

    These comments on conditioning are interesting and informative, thanks to all.

    Just finished processing some Kato Red clay, and realized I was doing something different in the beginning. I can’t bang or pound on stuff with my hands. Trying to get a new piece of clay thin enough for the pasta machine by pounding is laughable in my case.

    I’ll used the food conditioner but only for large batches of clay.

    I started by using the tissue blade to make slivers of red clay, thicker at the top, tapering to very thin, but always within the realm of being able to put it safely through the pasta machine.

    Then I thinned a very small sheet (2×2 inches) of translucent, and layered the red clay “chips” into the fold of the translucent, all with the thickest shaved ends pointing up so that the thinnest past of the chip is in the fold, nearest the rollers.

    Once through at thickest, then thinner, then, thinnest settings, and you can keep adding more sliced chips to condition whatever amount you need. The transparent clay holds the chips in place, and keeps it from shredding.

    Using this method, I can condition Kato clay pretty quickly. Sure hope it works as well to make it beneficial to others.

    Also use this method for all clays now. It’s much better when the pressure from the machine conditions rather than pushing and pulling with hands that hurt most of the time.

  54. pattw, 11 October, 2010

    Welcome Becky ! AS you have already found out. This a very giving group. We really are like a family. It’s fun and informative to be in the group…… you will learn so much, and always feel included. What more can you ask ? So kick back and enjoy

  55. Becky C., 11 October, 2010

    Thank you, Pattw! This is a great group, indeed! I did have much better results conditioning the Kato Polyclay using Donna’s own suggestions from the video. Although, still, it takes more time than Premo; as to be expected, I guess. I did not have to use any additives at all. Once conditioned, it is much easier to manipulate than Premo, however. Seems to be more “rubbery,” though not certain that is the correct term. I love the smell of “new doll,” too, lol. Premo can get very soft indeed when working it and the Kato never seems to reach that stage. So, for certain techniques, I am sure this is a better consistency. I will also try your new suggestion, Jocelyn, of adding the small chips to a small bit of translucent.

    Thanks again, everyone. I love this group and this site!

  56. Ken H, 12 October, 2010

    sorry thought the reply was working, Doug Ignore the comment from me in moderation, sorry!

    @ sharon b
    I love the image of closing the vise on the clay (till it confesses.) NOBODY EXPECTS THE POLYMER INQUISITION!!!! ok sorry, bad Monty Python pun)). Kato’s hardness is one of the reasons I’ve never attempted using it. But it is on my list of brands to try.

  57. Sharon B., 12 October, 2010

    @ Ken H :

    Oh, no! Another Python pun! I also have visions of the Stooges, with Curly’s head in (what I believe was) a book press.

    Yes, Katoclay doesn’t seem to have very much “open time” after conditioning, and it’s (at least the old version) a #@%*! to get it conditioned in the first place. (I secretly suspect, when Donna would demo projects on the Carol Duvall Show, that the clay was super-super, just-out-of-the-factory fresh. I know that the clay (and project steps) are prepared in advance, so it can sit for a while until filming. My clay would *not* be that pliant after sitting around even for a short while.)

    I bought mine quite a few years ago, when Jan E. had “Create It!” on Girard Avenue. OK, the store was closed (and poor Jan passed) several years ago, so you have a fair idea how old my clay is. I just wish that ACMoore or Michaels sold it. The closest Hobby Lobby to Philadelphia is — gasp! — above Allentown (about 1.5 hours away), so *that’s* out.

    I should probably get off my butt and use what I have (along with the Premo) to make some pretty things.


  58. Ken H., 12 October, 2010

    @ Sharon B

    If you want a source for Kato, I believe Firemountaingems sells Kato.

  59. Becky C., 13 October, 2010

    Sharon B., adding to Ken’s suggestion, Polymer Clay Express online also sells Kato and that is where I bought my Kato Concentrates just a couple of days ago. My Hobby Lobby didn’t have those in stock. Also, I will certainly try your “inquisition” technique on the Kato–I’ll force it to talk, lol! I happily have a bench vise I can squeeze it with! I have been beating it already with the poly roller a bit before attempting to roll it, so I could skip that step if I use the vise.

    P.S. I love Monty Python, too!

  60. Sharon B., 13 October, 2010

    @ Ken H. / @ Becky C.

    I know of an even better supplier (price-wise), but I was thinking of those times when we “just have to have it NOW.” Munro Crafts, in Michigan, will discount the total order, depending upon the amount spent. The best discount (50% off retail) is for orders over $200, so you pay $100. An order between $50 and $100 will yield a 25% discount. Should I ever have that much money to spend on my “hobbies,” I’ll be placing an order.

  61. Becky C., 15 October, 2010

    Thank you for that source, too, Sharon B! I have that saved to my “favorites” for hopefully when I have some larger amount of money to spend, too! Great discounts, $200 for $100! Of course, nowadays it doesn’t take buying many items to add up to that $200, sadly.

  62. Phaedrakat, 16 October, 2010

    @DMC: You’re welcome…wish I’d had better news. I’m really sorry to hear you’ve been ill — I hope you’re feeling better now!?? I didn’t understand the full situation when I answered before…didn’t know the newsletter links weren’t working anymore. Turns out I’m missing a couple of palettes myself…hadn’t downloaded them yet (laptop was in the shop when they came out.) I tried to figure out when the California Poppy Palette would come around again, since they circulate twice. It’s next July…unless the schedule changes. Since that’s a long time, I’m just gonna cross my fingers & hope Cindy can come up with something else for us before that. It’s a real shame someone posted those links — stealing Cindy’s recipes! That hurts all of us! Anyway, good luck…I hope you’re feeling much better!
    Regards, Kat :-)

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