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	<title>Comments on: Rock Tumblers &#124; Polymer Clay Beads &#124; Cleanser Method vs River Rocks</title>
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		<title>By: Cindy Lietz@Polymer Clay Beads and Rock Tumblers</title>
		<link>http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/rock-tumblers-polymer-clay-beads-cleanser-method-river-rocks/4555/#comment-24568</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy Lietz@Polymer Clay Beads and Rock Tumblers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;**PHOTOS ADDED:&lt;/strong&gt; Some project pictures have just been added to a Spotlight Feature showcasing Rob Kerfoot, a member who is very much appreciated here at this supportive polymer clay community. Click on the &quot;Polymer Clay Beads and Rock Tumblers&quot; link by my name above to have a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>**PHOTOS ADDED:</strong> Some project pictures have just been added to a Spotlight Feature showcasing Rob Kerfoot, a member who is very much appreciated here at this supportive polymer clay community. Click on the &#034;Polymer Clay Beads and Rock Tumblers&#034; link by my name above to have a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Jocelyn</title>
		<link>http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/rock-tumblers-polymer-clay-beads-cleanser-method-river-rocks/4555/#comment-22294</link>
		<dc:creator>Jocelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Silverleaf

Anna, you folks must have &quot;rock shops&quot; over there where folks sell crystals, meteors, smooth river rocks, and mineral specimens.  

When you get a moment, go a visit.  Usually these places have a basement full of all types of vibratory and liquid based tumblers going.  Ask if you could purchase one &quot;as is&quot; and used.

If you chose Lortone, the best in my opinion, that sucker will churn for decades with minimum maintenance and the replacement of a rubber gasket or two.

Hope this works for you.  I love mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Silverleaf</p>
<p>Anna, you folks must have &#034;rock shops&#034; over there where folks sell crystals, meteors, smooth river rocks, and mineral specimens.  </p>
<p>When you get a moment, go a visit.  Usually these places have a basement full of all types of vibratory and liquid based tumblers going.  Ask if you could purchase one &#034;as is&#034; and used.</p>
<p>If you chose Lortone, the best in my opinion, that sucker will churn for decades with minimum maintenance and the replacement of a rubber gasket or two.</p>
<p>Hope this works for you.  I love mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Lietz@Buffing Polymer Beads</title>
		<link>http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/rock-tumblers-polymer-clay-beads-cleanser-method-river-rocks/4555/#comment-21162</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy Lietz@Buffing Polymer Beads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sue: You&#039;re right about Desiree probably being the first to come up with the pebbles in the tumbler idea. Someone (I think Ken or Rob) suggested it here after reading it on the net and then later after testing it myself, I found her tutorial on it. It is an excellent idea! I think the idea of sorting the rocks is a good one, but I haven&#039;t really found it necessary. My rocks probably weren&#039;t that rough to start with. Desiree is probably right about them lasting forever. The beads are so soft and there isn&#039;t any fine particles in there to polish the rocks further.

@Silverleaf: There was discussion in another thread about kiddie tumblers working. I think it was the one I linked to by my name.

@Polyanya: I agree. It is something that would pay for itself over time. 

@Freda: That is good to hear. Maybe that will help Silverleaf with her decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sue: You&#039;re right about Desiree probably being the first to come up with the pebbles in the tumbler idea. Someone (I think Ken or Rob) suggested it here after reading it on the net and then later after testing it myself, I found her tutorial on it. It is an excellent idea! I think the idea of sorting the rocks is a good one, but I haven&#039;t really found it necessary. My rocks probably weren&#039;t that rough to start with. Desiree is probably right about them lasting forever. The beads are so soft and there isn&#039;t any fine particles in there to polish the rocks further.</p>
<p>@Silverleaf: There was discussion in another thread about kiddie tumblers working. I think it was the one I linked to by my name.</p>
<p>@Polyanya: I agree. It is something that would pay for itself over time. </p>
<p>@Freda: That is good to hear. Maybe that will help Silverleaf with her decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Freda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a kids tumbler to see if I would like one and it works for me. Probably won&#039;t invest in a real one now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a kids tumbler to see if I would like one and it works for me. Probably won&#039;t invest in a real one now.</p>
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		<title>By: Polyanya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polyanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Know exactly what you mean Silverleaf - but we figured what the heck and ordered a double barrell tumbler - it was expensive but hopefully will last a good few years and will pay for itself in actual man(woman) hours.  Sanding beads is sooooo dull!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know exactly what you mean Silverleaf &#8211; but we figured what the heck and ordered a double barrell tumbler &#8211; it was expensive but hopefully will last a good few years and will pay for itself in actual man(woman) hours.  Sanding beads is sooooo dull!</p>
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		<title>By: Silverleaf</title>
		<link>http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/rock-tumblers-polymer-clay-beads-cleanser-method-river-rocks/4555/#comment-21058</link>
		<dc:creator>Silverleaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, money is holding me back. Craft stuff seems so expensive over here in the UK!

I&#039;d love a rock tumbler but even the cheap kiddy ones are like £30.

Anyone know if the cheapo ones are worth it? I figure clay&#039;s much softer than rocks so it shouldn&#039;t take as much effort to sand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, money is holding me back. Craft stuff seems so expensive over here in the UK!</p>
<p>I&#039;d love a rock tumbler but even the cheap kiddy ones are like £30.</p>
<p>Anyone know if the cheapo ones are worth it? I figure clay&#039;s much softer than rocks so it shouldn&#039;t take as much effort to sand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Highly polished pebbles won&#039;t work, apparently, but smooth rocks are fine. Great, even, as they seem to tumble-sand to the equivalent of a higher grit sandpaper. (I deliberately only use smooth rocks.)

Desiree McCrorey was the first person I saw suggest tumble-sanding with rocks, and I used her process as the starting point for working out what suited me best. She describes TWO passes of pebble-sorting, with a first pass where she selected the smoothest and roundest pebbles for use in her first tumbling stage which she estimated at 400-500 grit, and then a second pass where she picked the smoothest out of those smooth rocks for a second tumbling stage which she estimated at 700-800 grit.

I just do a single tumble-sanding stage, going straight to the &quot;smoothest of the smooth&quot; (had to pick through a LOT of rocks!). However, I also tumble with MANY more rocks than beads in my vibratory tumbler, and only a little bit of water, so those may be factors in how effective they are. The end result I get is a bit better than 800 grit, anyway, and I&#039;m very pleased with it.

Oh, and Desiree said on her web page that &quot;Unlike sandpaper, river rocks as a tumbling media will last forever.&quot; She&#039;s been tumble-sanding for years more than I have, so I reckon that sounds promising!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Highly polished pebbles won&#039;t work, apparently, but smooth rocks are fine. Great, even, as they seem to tumble-sand to the equivalent of a higher grit sandpaper. (I deliberately only use smooth rocks.)</p>
<p>Desiree McCrorey was the first person I saw suggest tumble-sanding with rocks, and I used her process as the starting point for working out what suited me best. She describes TWO passes of pebble-sorting, with a first pass where she selected the smoothest and roundest pebbles for use in her first tumbling stage which she estimated at 400-500 grit, and then a second pass where she picked the smoothest out of those smooth rocks for a second tumbling stage which she estimated at 700-800 grit.</p>
<p>I just do a single tumble-sanding stage, going straight to the &#034;smoothest of the smooth&#034; (had to pick through a LOT of rocks!). However, I also tumble with MANY more rocks than beads in my vibratory tumbler, and only a little bit of water, so those may be factors in how effective they are. The end result I get is a bit better than 800 grit, anyway, and I&#039;m very pleased with it.</p>
<p>Oh, and Desiree said on her web page that &#034;Unlike sandpaper, river rocks as a tumbling media will last forever.&#034; She&#039;s been tumble-sanding for years more than I have, so I reckon that sounds promising!<br />
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		<title>By: Cindy Lietz@Polymer Clay Videos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Lietz@Polymer Clay Videos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 00:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jamie: I&#039;m positive we will meet one day. How can we not, it&#039;s in the cards!

@Freda: I don&#039;t really know. I think the only way the pebbles are going to stop working is if they become smooth. And if that were possible just by tumbling alone without any substrate, then all the pebbles on the beach would be polished. I suppose if it did happen after lots of tumbling, you could just replace the stones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jamie: I&#039;m positive we will meet one day. How can we not, it&#039;s in the cards!</p>
<p>@Freda: I don&#039;t really know. I think the only way the pebbles are going to stop working is if they become smooth. And if that were possible just by tumbling alone without any substrate, then all the pebbles on the beach would be polished. I suppose if it did happen after lots of tumbling, you could just replace the stones.</p>
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		<title>By: Freda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a questiion about river rocks. Do you keep using the same river rocks or do they get polished and are no longer good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a questiion about river rocks. Do you keep using the same river rocks or do they get polished and are no longer good?</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to worry Cindy. You have a lot of things on your plate thats for sure. We understand. And who could complain anyway when you keep giving all of us so much every week? My philosophy is that it will happen if it was meant to. If it doesnt then we should be happy with what we do have. And I for one am happy.   XOXO Jamie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to worry Cindy. You have a lot of things on your plate thats for sure. We understand. And who could complain anyway when you keep giving all of us so much every week? My philosophy is that it will happen if it was meant to. If it doesnt then we should be happy with what we do have. And I for one am happy.   XOXO Jamie</p>
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