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		<title>By: Phaedrakat</title>
		<link>http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/polymer-clay-bead-giveaway-update-happy-dance-side-effects/7935/#comment-33940</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaedrakat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-33935&quot;&gt;carolyn&lt;/a&gt;: My computer&#039;s acting up, so I&#039;m gonna try to check out your blog tomorrow. I&#039;m sorry, I really didn&#039;t read your comment correctly. I&#039;m heading to bed, I&#039;ll give this a better and proper look tomorrow! Thanks for letting me know about your pencils; hopefully I&#039;m worrying about it for nothing, and it&#039;s just a coincidence. Did your directions mention using the spray with clay, or were they just general use directions for paper, and other items? Bye for now. Have a great morning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a  href="#comment-33935">carolyn</a>: My computer&#8217;s acting up, so I&#8217;m gonna try to check out your blog tomorrow. I&#8217;m sorry, I really didn&#8217;t read your comment correctly. I&#8217;m heading to bed, I&#8217;ll give this a better and proper look tomorrow! Thanks for letting me know about your pencils; hopefully I&#8217;m worrying about it for nothing, and it&#8217;s just a coincidence. Did your directions mention using the spray with clay, or were they just general use directions for paper, and other items? Bye for now. Have a great morning!</p>
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		<title>By: Phaedrakat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phaedrakat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-33935&quot;&gt;carolyn&lt;/a&gt;: Hi Carolyn, after using your pencils, you probably need to pop your piece in the oven or blast it with the heat gun. I&#039;m not even sure that would work, but if these pencils have oils in them, it could eat into the clay over time. Of course, it might &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; be the case. They could be perfectly compatible. But in every example of oil pencils used on polymer clay that I&#039;ve seen, a final cure is done, or liquid clay is placed over the pencils, and then cured, either in the oven or with a heat gun. I could be a coincidence, but it might be necessary! You might want to do it, just to play it safe. 

I wish someone who has used the oil pencils sucessfully without a heat cure would pipe up so that you guys know it&#039;s safe! You can do a test, but it could take months for the oils to &quot;eat&quot; into the clay, ruining your piece. We need someone with info! Perhaps Peggy tried her Lyra Rembrandt pencils, after all?? Or maybe the woman who does the face portrait video will be willing to provide info about compatibility issues??

As for the PYM II, I&#039;m sure that will make a lovely finish, as it seems to work for so many things. I want to get some for myself, eventually. I know where to get it, too... ;-D Have fun with your new pencils!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a  href="#comment-33935">carolyn</a>: Hi Carolyn, after using your pencils, you probably need to pop your piece in the oven or blast it with the heat gun. I&#8217;m not even sure that would work, but if these pencils have oils in them, it could eat into the clay over time. Of course, it might <b>not</b> be the case. They could be perfectly compatible. But in every example of oil pencils used on polymer clay that I&#8217;ve seen, a final cure is done, or liquid clay is placed over the pencils, and then cured, either in the oven or with a heat gun. I could be a coincidence, but it might be necessary! You might want to do it, just to play it safe. </p>
<p>I wish someone who has used the oil pencils sucessfully without a heat cure would pipe up so that you guys know it&#8217;s safe! You can do a test, but it could take months for the oils to &#8220;eat&#8221; into the clay, ruining your piece. We need someone with info! Perhaps Peggy tried her Lyra Rembrandt pencils, after all?? Or maybe the woman who does the face portrait video will be willing to provide info about compatibility issues??</p>
<p>As for the PYM II, I&#8217;m sure that will make a lovely finish, as it seems to work for so many things. I want to get some for myself, eventually. I know where to get it, too&#8230; ;-D Have fun with your new pencils!</p>
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		<title>By: carolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-33831&quot;&gt;Phaedrakat&lt;/a&gt;: Hi, Phaedrakat!  I received my Walnut Hollow pencils today.  The info that came with them recommended using a spray finish over the pencil work.  Sounds to me like a good use for PYM II.  Check out my blog at dovedesigns.blogspot(dot)com to see some testing examples that I did for PYM II.  I don&#039;t have any examples using the oil pencils yet ... get I&#039;ll have to get on that.  I did try one of the pencils on a piece of failure baked clay.  It went on very smoothly as far as I could tell with this piece.  For this I only rubbed it over the raised part of a textured sheet.  What I&#039;d like is to do the depressed part of texture, but I don&#039;t have anything right now to work on.  Soon ... I hope!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a  href="#comment-33831">Phaedrakat</a>: Hi, Phaedrakat!  I received my Walnut Hollow pencils today.  The info that came with them recommended using a spray finish over the pencil work.  Sounds to me like a good use for PYM II.  Check out my blog at dovedesigns.blogspot(dot)com to see some testing examples that I did for PYM II.  I don&#8217;t have any examples using the oil pencils yet &#8230; get I&#8217;ll have to get on that.  I did try one of the pencils on a piece of failure baked clay.  It went on very smoothly as far as I could tell with this piece.  For this I only rubbed it over the raised part of a textured sheet.  What I&#8217;d like is to do the depressed part of texture, but I don&#8217;t have anything right now to work on.  Soon &#8230; I hope!</p>
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		<title>By: Phaedrakat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phaedrakat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 05:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-33809&quot;&gt;Cheryl Hodges&lt;/a&gt;: Hi Cheryl, I&#039;m so glad you found a good price for the pencils! I did some research—&lt;b&gt;Bake &amp; then Write&lt;/b&gt; is how it&#039;s done! I googled &quot;Walnut Hollow Pencils Liquid Clay&quot;, thinking in the video I&#039;d seen (the one with the woman doing oil pencil portraits,) the woman had used liquid clay over the pencils. I ended up finding a few references, and they all mention oil pencils used on &lt;i&gt;baked&lt;/i&gt; clay, with a layer of liquid clay covering them. Then the liquid clay is cured. 

The &quot;portrait woman&quot; uses the Walnut Hollow oil pencils you bought, although she sometimes uses the ones that Peggy mentioned–Lyra Rembrandt Polycolor–too. (It&#039;s strange—this woman&#039;s name is Penni-Jo Couch, according to the video. But the blog owner, who describes the process as her own &amp; points to the video, is named &quot;Ellie, aka Claylady.&quot; Confusing! I must be missing something, but that&#039;s why I keep saying &quot;this woman&quot;!) Anyway, Penni-Jo says that they&#039;re both good quality oil pencils and they work on polymer clay. She also uses a &quot;Pitt Artist Pen&quot; which supposedly works great to outline her drawings (very fine tip.) She says the Pitt Artist pen is perfectly compatible with clay, as long as you let it dry completely first, then cover it with Kato Liquid. I went to a website where the pens are sold, and it says they&#039;re &quot;extremely fade-resistant Indian ink...waterproof when dry.&quot;

That got me thinking about our Creative Memories pens. I wonder if they might work okay if we let them dry on baked clay, then cover with Kato liquid. If they survive that, we could then gloss with Future or Varathane, without worrying about smearing...

Anyway, regarding your pencils, it appears that you use them on &lt;b&gt;baked&lt;/b&gt; clay. Then you cover them with Kato Medium (or any liquid clay, but Kato can be made really clear.) Cure the Kato liquid at 275F, about 10 minutes. When it comes out of the oven, blast it with a heat gun until it&#039;s clear (keep the gun continuously moving over the surface so you don&#039;t scorch or mess-up the finish.) You can build up several layers of Kato liquid for a nice, glossy finish. To do that, make sure you let each layer cool before applying the next. Then cure with the heat gun, and repeat. Or you can use Future or whatever other finish you like over that first layer of cured Kato. Or you could even use a different liquid clay, for a different effect.

Good luck, Cheryl. I wish I was able to experiment with the pens right now, but my room&#039;s a chaotic mess, and my back is extra sore from all the moving stuff around. I&#039;ll try it as soon as I get a chance, though; I&#039;ll let you know (the CM pens with Kato.) If you get to it first, please let me know. I also want to hear how your new oil pencils work out. It&#039;ll be great to see what you can do with them! Have fun! ;~D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a  href="#comment-33809">Cheryl Hodges</a>: Hi Cheryl, I&#8217;m so glad you found a good price for the pencils! I did some research—<b>Bake &amp; then Write</b> is how it&#8217;s done! I googled &#8220;Walnut Hollow Pencils Liquid Clay&#8221;, thinking in the video I&#8217;d seen (the one with the woman doing oil pencil portraits,) the woman had used liquid clay over the pencils. I ended up finding a few references, and they all mention oil pencils used on <i>baked</i> clay, with a layer of liquid clay covering them. Then the liquid clay is cured. </p>
<p>The &#8220;portrait woman&#8221; uses the Walnut Hollow oil pencils you bought, although she sometimes uses the ones that Peggy mentioned–Lyra Rembrandt Polycolor–too. (It&#8217;s strange—this woman&#8217;s name is Penni-Jo Couch, according to the video. But the blog owner, who describes the process as her own &amp; points to the video, is named &#8220;Ellie, aka Claylady.&#8221; Confusing! I must be missing something, but that&#8217;s why I keep saying &#8220;this woman&#8221;!) Anyway, Penni-Jo says that they&#8217;re both good quality oil pencils and they work on polymer clay. She also uses a &#8220;Pitt Artist Pen&#8221; which supposedly works great to outline her drawings (very fine tip.) She says the Pitt Artist pen is perfectly compatible with clay, as long as you let it dry completely first, then cover it with Kato Liquid. I went to a website where the pens are sold, and it says they&#8217;re &#8220;extremely fade-resistant Indian ink&#8230;waterproof when dry.&#8221;</p>
<p>That got me thinking about our Creative Memories pens. I wonder if they might work okay if we let them dry on baked clay, then cover with Kato liquid. If they survive that, we could then gloss with Future or Varathane, without worrying about smearing&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, regarding your pencils, it appears that you use them on <b>baked</b> clay. Then you cover them with Kato Medium (or any liquid clay, but Kato can be made really clear.) Cure the Kato liquid at 275F, about 10 minutes. When it comes out of the oven, blast it with a heat gun until it&#8217;s clear (keep the gun continuously moving over the surface so you don&#8217;t scorch or mess-up the finish.) You can build up several layers of Kato liquid for a nice, glossy finish. To do that, make sure you let each layer cool before applying the next. Then cure with the heat gun, and repeat. Or you can use Future or whatever other finish you like over that first layer of cured Kato. Or you could even use a different liquid clay, for a different effect.</p>
<p>Good luck, Cheryl. I wish I was able to experiment with the pens right now, but my room&#8217;s a chaotic mess, and my back is extra sore from all the moving stuff around. I&#8217;ll try it as soon as I get a chance, though; I&#8217;ll let you know (the CM pens with Kato.) If you get to it first, please let me know. I also want to hear how your new oil pencils work out. It&#8217;ll be great to see what you can do with them! Have fun! ;~D</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Hodges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Hodges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would love to know if anyone has tried it, if I need to write/paint on unbaked clay or bake it and then write? I think I&#039;ll try the oil pencils both ways unbaked and baked.  I ordered them from ebay - Walnut Hollow.  I couldn&#039;t find them at Michaels and they were a lot cheaper on ebay even with shipping than on the site. thanks for all the help.  If I suceed will let you all know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love to know if anyone has tried it, if I need to write/paint on unbaked clay or bake it and then write? I think I&#8217;ll try the oil pencils both ways unbaked and baked.  I ordered them from ebay &#8211; Walnut Hollow.  I couldn&#8217;t find them at Michaels and they were a lot cheaper on ebay even with shipping than on the site. thanks for all the help.  If I suceed will let you all know.</p>
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		<title>By: Phaedrakat</title>
		<link>http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/polymer-clay-bead-giveaway-update-happy-dance-side-effects/7935/#comment-33768</link>
		<dc:creator>Phaedrakat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 08:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-33733&quot;&gt;Cheryl Hodges&lt;/a&gt;: Bummer! I bought a couple of those pens on clearance, thinking they would work. Oh, well, they were cheap and good quality, I&#039;ll find a way to use them. I&#039;m sorry you&#039;re having such a hard time finding something decent to draw with! Did you ever try the &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-29566&quot;&gt;pencils that Peggy Barnes mentioned&lt;/a&gt; above? The Lyra Rembrandt are oil pencils. I&#039;m not sure if Peggy&#039;s actually done the project yet, though. (I&#039;ll ask her...) BTW, I also bought some oil pastels on clearance at the same place I bought the Creative Memories pens. Haven&#039;t tried them yet, but I think they&#039;ll make some cool effects if I use them like Penny suggested (above.)

&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-29566&quot;&gt;Peggy,&lt;/a&gt; have you tried using your Lyra Rembrandt pencils yet? Poor Cheryl is eager to find something to write &amp; draw on her polymer clay with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a  href="#comment-33733">Cheryl Hodges</a>: Bummer! I bought a couple of those pens on clearance, thinking they would work. Oh, well, they were cheap and good quality, I&#8217;ll find a way to use them. I&#8217;m sorry you&#8217;re having such a hard time finding something decent to draw with! Did you ever try the <a  href="#comment-29566">pencils that Peggy Barnes mentioned</a> above? The Lyra Rembrandt are oil pencils. I&#8217;m not sure if Peggy&#8217;s actually done the project yet, though. (I&#8217;ll ask her&#8230;) BTW, I also bought some oil pastels on clearance at the same place I bought the Creative Memories pens. Haven&#8217;t tried them yet, but I think they&#8217;ll make some cool effects if I use them like Penny suggested (above.)</p>
<p><a  href="#comment-29566">Peggy,</a> have you tried using your Lyra Rembrandt pencils yet? Poor Cheryl is eager to find something to write &amp; draw on her polymer clay with.</p>
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		<title>By: carolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-33733&quot;&gt;Cheryl Hodges&lt;/a&gt;: I have not received them yet.  I ordered a set on eBay since that was cheaper than any if my other sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a  href="#comment-33733">Cheryl Hodges</a>: I have not received them yet.  I ordered a set on eBay since that was cheaper than any if my other sources.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Hodges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Hodges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 16:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Carolyn - Did you try out any oil pencils on the polymer clay?  I baked a bit of clay and tried using my fine tip pens from scrap booking  (creative memories)  They are supposed to be fade and smudge resistant but it doesnt work the same on the clay.  I tried it after baking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Carolyn &#8211; Did you try out any oil pencils on the polymer clay?  I baked a bit of clay and tried using my fine tip pens from scrap booking  (creative memories)  They are supposed to be fade and smudge resistant but it doesnt work the same on the clay.  I tried it after baking.</p>
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		<title>By: Phaedrakat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phaedrakat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem, Helen. Actually, I&#039;m still nursing my back, so I&#039;m not going to be able to get anything done before the deadline. It&#039;s going to have to be &quot;next time&quot; for me. Anyway, I&#039;m glad to help. There are instructions on Facebook, as well. I&#039;ll tell you where they are, and then give you any additional insight I might have. Help is up at the top of the page under &quot;Account&quot; (where it says &quot;Home&quot; &quot;Profile, etc.) and it&#039;s called &quot;Help Center.&quot; Go to that, then find &quot;Photos&quot; which is in the second help group called &quot;Facebook Applications and Features.&quot; Click on the Photos help, then there&#039;s a list of different things you can do with the photos. You would start with the first, which is &quot;Creating and uploading.&quot; Click on that. The first item is &quot;How do I add photos and create an album?&quot; Then, you&#039;ll see the steps I&#039;ve shown you so far. Okay, do that, and I&#039;ll be back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem, Helen. Actually, I&#8217;m still nursing my back, so I&#8217;m not going to be able to get anything done before the deadline. It&#8217;s going to have to be &#8220;next time&#8221; for me. Anyway, I&#8217;m glad to help. There are instructions on Facebook, as well. I&#8217;ll tell you where they are, and then give you any additional insight I might have. Help is up at the top of the page under &#8220;Account&#8221; (where it says &#8220;Home&#8221; &#8220;Profile, etc.) and it&#8217;s called &#8220;Help Center.&#8221; Go to that, then find &#8220;Photos&#8221; which is in the second help group called &#8220;Facebook Applications and Features.&#8221; Click on the Photos help, then there&#8217;s a list of different things you can do with the photos. You would start with the first, which is &#8220;Creating and uploading.&#8221; Click on that. The first item is &#8220;How do I add photos and create an album?&#8221; Then, you&#8217;ll see the steps I&#8217;ve shown you so far. Okay, do that, and I&#8217;ll be back!</p>
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		<title>By: Helen Sperring        (honeyclay)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen Sperring        (honeyclay)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pheadrakat, I&#039;m so sorry I&#039;m taking up so much of your time. I never thought that maybe you were trying to get some of your own creations on line before the deadline. If you have do have some time for me I  would really appreciate it.  I followed your directions up to &quot;On photos tab you have create an album&quot; and after that I don&#039;t know what I did because I didn&#039;t write it down. Plus when I lost two pictures I got real nervous. I think I had a panic attack, so I don&#039;t remember what I did. I would really appreciate it if you could give me the rest of the directions. Sorry I&#039;m being such a pest but I love learning. Thank You, Thank You, Honey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pheadrakat, I&#8217;m so sorry I&#8217;m taking up so much of your time. I never thought that maybe you were trying to get some of your own creations on line before the deadline. If you have do have some time for me I  would really appreciate it.  I followed your directions up to &#8220;On photos tab you have create an album&#8221; and after that I don&#8217;t know what I did because I didn&#8217;t write it down. Plus when I lost two pictures I got real nervous. I think I had a panic attack, so I don&#8217;t remember what I did. I would really appreciate it if you could give me the rest of the directions. Sorry I&#8217;m being such a pest but I love learning. Thank You, Thank You, Honey</p>
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