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	<title>Comments on: Cornstarch and Polymer Clay Beads &#124; Things That Belong Together</title>
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		<title>By: Sue F</title>
		<link>http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/cornstarch-and-polymer-clay-beads/4082/#comment-30910</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll definitely post an update once I&#039;ve done some more testing, although it will probably be two weeks until I have enough time to do that properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll definitely post an update once I&#8217;ve done some more testing, although it will probably be two weeks until I have enough time to do that properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Lietz@Polymer Clay Color Recipes</title>
		<link>http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/cornstarch-and-polymer-clay-beads/4082/#comment-30906</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy Lietz@Polymer Clay Color Recipes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, interesting. I am a little at a loss here. I know that Donna Kato recommends putting clay in cornstarch as well, so I&#039;m not sure what is happening here with your clay. I guess, all you can do is keep testing and see what works best for you. I suppose it could also be a problem with one particular batch, though it does sound like you&#039;re having no problems with it outside of the cornstarch. What we need is something as soft and as fine as cornstarch but that is completely non-porous. I wonder if something like that exists? As always, keep us updated. I love getting your &#039;Lab updates&#039;! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, interesting. I am a little at a loss here. I know that Donna Kato recommends putting clay in cornstarch as well, so I&#8217;m not sure what is happening here with your clay. I guess, all you can do is keep testing and see what works best for you. I suppose it could also be a problem with one particular batch, though it does sound like you&#8217;re having no problems with it outside of the cornstarch. What we need is something as soft and as fine as cornstarch but that is completely non-porous. I wonder if something like that exists? As always, keep us updated. I love getting your &#8216;Lab updates&#8217;! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Sue F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 01:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The time delay between immersing the sample in cornstarch and popping the whole thing into the oven was less than 10 seconds. ;D I&#039;d seen your comment before about leaching and made sure that pre-baking leaching wasn&#039;t a factor. I don&#039;t know whether there&#039;s some &quot;super-leaching&quot; effect going on DURING the baking and will test that too, but I&#039;ve never had deliberately-leached samples baked normally get that weak (I&#039;d made a few heavily-leached sheets of polyclay when trying to replicate your deep crackle faux raku effect, before that video was published).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The time delay between immersing the sample in cornstarch and popping the whole thing into the oven was less than 10 seconds. ;D I&#8217;d seen your comment before about leaching and made sure that pre-baking leaching wasn&#8217;t a factor. I don&#8217;t know whether there&#8217;s some &#8220;super-leaching&#8221; effect going on DURING the baking and will test that too, but I&#8217;ve never had deliberately-leached samples baked normally get that weak (I&#8217;d made a few heavily-leached sheets of polyclay when trying to replicate your deep crackle faux raku effect, before that video was published).</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Lietz@Kato Polyclay Color Recipes</title>
		<link>http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/cornstarch-and-polymer-clay-beads/4082/#comment-30819</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy Lietz@Kato Polyclay Color Recipes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, it is so fantastic to hear about your testing results Sue! I had planned to have a &#039;In the Lab&#039; type segment in the blog for testing, just like this, but as it has gotten busier and busier around here, I hadn&#039;t found the time. So having you share your findings has been a tremendous asset!

Now, I have found that the amount of time the clay has been sitting in the cornstarch, prior to baking had a big effect of the clay strength when baked. (Possible leaching of plasticizers from the clay, due to absorption qualities of the cornstarch.) I found clay that went straight into the oven after immersing in the cornstarch was fine, however if it sat in the starch for any length of time it become weak.

How long did your samples sit in the starch before baking? I would be curious to know if this could have possibly been the source of the problem or if indeed it is a brand or formula issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, it is so fantastic to hear about your testing results Sue! I had planned to have a &#8216;In the Lab&#8217; type segment in the blog for testing, just like this, but as it has gotten busier and busier around here, I hadn&#8217;t found the time. So having you share your findings has been a tremendous asset!</p>
<p>Now, I have found that the amount of time the clay has been sitting in the cornstarch, prior to baking had a big effect of the clay strength when baked. (Possible leaching of plasticizers from the clay, due to absorption qualities of the cornstarch.) I found clay that went straight into the oven after immersing in the cornstarch was fine, however if it sat in the starch for any length of time it become weak.</p>
<p>How long did your samples sit in the starch before baking? I would be curious to know if this could have possibly been the source of the problem or if indeed it is a brand or formula issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remembered &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/cornstarch-and-polymer-clay-beads/4082/#comment-17115&quot;&gt;Karrah&#039;s comment&lt;/a&gt; (above) about her Kato beads being really weak when baked in cornstarch, and thought I&#039;d mention that I&#039;ve just seen the same problem myself.

I&#039;ve been converting some of Cindy&#039;s gorgeous Premo colour recipes to Kato, and in doing this had found that SOME of my Kato colours were shifting a bit during baking, away from violet and towards blue. So I thought I&#039;d bake a sample immersed in cornstarch to see if that made a difference (tenting doesn&#039;t). I mixed up one of the recipes that I&#039;d seen colour shifting with and cut out two colour chips, each 41mm long by 28mm wide by 1.8mm thick. One went onto a 10cm white tile for baking like I normally do, and the other went into a small (150mL) clear pyrex dish with 1.5cm of cornstarch in the bottom, and was then covered with another 1cm of cornstarch. Both then went straight into a 152C/305F oven for 25 minutes (recommended baking time is 150C/300F for 10 minutes on the oldest and newest packages; the 135C/275F on some packets in the middle of that is apparently an aberration, to use my words instead of Van Aken&#039;s), were taken out and left to cool naturally.

When I took the chip out of the cornstarch I found that it hadn&#039;t shifted colour, but it was so weak that I could practically break it by looking at it! Well, not QUITE that bad, but almost. Very light finger pressure was enough to snap it into small pieces, and I can actually pulverize those pieces completely when I press hard. However, the chip baked on the tile was as strong as ever (taking several hundred full bends with pliers to break it, in line with what I&#039;d noted in the temperature/strength test info I posted above).

25 minutes is two-and-a-half times the &quot;recommended&quot; baking time as printed on the packet, although it&#039;s about normal for me. It was only a small dish of cornstarch so there wasn&#039;t much extra thermal mass -- certainly less than the tile the other sample was baked on -- but it does have an insulating effect.

I&#039;d said earlier in reply to Karrah&#039;s comments that I hadn&#039;t tried cornstarch immersion. But now that I have, Cindy&#039;s guess that it might be a brand thing to do with Kato looks like being on the mark. I&#039;ll do some proper testing in the next week or two and will post the results (e.g. is it possible to get decent strength when Kato is baked immersed in cornstarch; if it is, how long does it take... and does that pesky colour shift return when the strength does!) but thought I&#039;d mention straight away that cornstarch immersion doesn&#039;t seem to be a good idea for the Kato brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remembered <a  href="http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/cornstarch-and-polymer-clay-beads/4082/#comment-17115">Karrah&#8217;s comment</a> (above) about her Kato beads being really weak when baked in cornstarch, and thought I&#8217;d mention that I&#8217;ve just seen the same problem myself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been converting some of Cindy&#8217;s gorgeous Premo colour recipes to Kato, and in doing this had found that SOME of my Kato colours were shifting a bit during baking, away from violet and towards blue. So I thought I&#8217;d bake a sample immersed in cornstarch to see if that made a difference (tenting doesn&#8217;t). I mixed up one of the recipes that I&#8217;d seen colour shifting with and cut out two colour chips, each 41mm long by 28mm wide by 1.8mm thick. One went onto a 10cm white tile for baking like I normally do, and the other went into a small (150mL) clear pyrex dish with 1.5cm of cornstarch in the bottom, and was then covered with another 1cm of cornstarch. Both then went straight into a 152C/305F oven for 25 minutes (recommended baking time is 150C/300F for 10 minutes on the oldest and newest packages; the 135C/275F on some packets in the middle of that is apparently an aberration, to use my words instead of Van Aken&#8217;s), were taken out and left to cool naturally.</p>
<p>When I took the chip out of the cornstarch I found that it hadn&#8217;t shifted colour, but it was so weak that I could practically break it by looking at it! Well, not QUITE that bad, but almost. Very light finger pressure was enough to snap it into small pieces, and I can actually pulverize those pieces completely when I press hard. However, the chip baked on the tile was as strong as ever (taking several hundred full bends with pliers to break it, in line with what I&#8217;d noted in the temperature/strength test info I posted above).</p>
<p>25 minutes is two-and-a-half times the &#8220;recommended&#8221; baking time as printed on the packet, although it&#8217;s about normal for me. It was only a small dish of cornstarch so there wasn&#8217;t much extra thermal mass &#8212; certainly less than the tile the other sample was baked on &#8212; but it does have an insulating effect.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d said earlier in reply to Karrah&#8217;s comments that I hadn&#8217;t tried cornstarch immersion. But now that I have, Cindy&#8217;s guess that it might be a brand thing to do with Kato looks like being on the mark. I&#8217;ll do some proper testing in the next week or two and will post the results (e.g. is it possible to get decent strength when Kato is baked immersed in cornstarch; if it is, how long does it take&#8230; and does that pesky colour shift return when the strength does!) but thought I&#8217;d mention straight away that cornstarch immersion doesn&#8217;t seem to be a good idea for the Kato brand.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Lietz@International Polymer Clay Artists</title>
		<link>http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/cornstarch-and-polymer-clay-beads/4082/#comment-29870</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy Lietz@International Polymer Clay Artists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I&#039;m sorry dee, I don&#039;t know how to make polymer clay at home. Even if there were a recipe for it, I do not think that the same quality as the commercial brands would be possible. I&#039;m sure there must be an online source you can purchase your polymer clay from that will ship to you in Indonesia. Perhaps others from your country who read this blog, could pipe up with some suggestions. It is so fun to hear from all of the international visitors that follow the blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I&#8217;m sorry dee, I don&#8217;t know how to make polymer clay at home. Even if there were a recipe for it, I do not think that the same quality as the commercial brands would be possible. I&#8217;m sure there must be an online source you can purchase your polymer clay from that will ship to you in Indonesia. Perhaps others from your country who read this blog, could pipe up with some suggestions. It is so fun to hear from all of the international visitors that follow the blog.</p>
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		<title>By: dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cindy, do you know how to make own polymer clay at home? in indonesia the existence of polymer clay is very rare, but as for certain it is so expensive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cindy, do you know how to make own polymer clay at home? in indonesia the existence of polymer clay is very rare, but as for certain it is so expensive</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Lietz@How To Bake Sculpey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Lietz@How To Bake Sculpey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 03:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point Brenda! I always tent my beads as well. Haven&#039;t had a scorched bead since!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point Brenda! I always tent my beads as well. Haven&#8217;t had a scorched bead since!</p>
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		<title>By: Brenda Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brenda Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Doug -- Do you put the paper tent over your pieces while baking?  I started doing that and it made a big difference.  The heating element was the culprit for over cooking my clays.  I guess in my toaster oven, the clay is just too close to the element - and that&#039;s to be understood.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Doug &#8212; Do you put the paper tent over your pieces while baking?  I started doing that and it made a big difference.  The heating element was the culprit for over cooking my clays.  I guess in my toaster oven, the clay is just too close to the element &#8211; and that&#8217;s to be understood.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Lietz@Polymer Clay Beads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Lietz@Polymer Clay Beads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;**PHOTOS ADDED:&lt;/strong&gt; Some project pictures have just been added to a Spotlight Feature showcasing Rob Kerfoot, a member who is very much appreciated here at this supportive polymer clay community. Click on the &quot;Polymer Clay Beads&quot; link by my name above to have a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>**PHOTOS ADDED:</strong> Some project pictures have just been added to a Spotlight Feature showcasing Rob Kerfoot, a member who is very much appreciated here at this supportive polymer clay community. Click on the &#8220;Polymer Clay Beads&#8221; link by my name above to have a look.</p>
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