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		<title>By: Cindy Lietz@Distressed Paint Finishes on Polymer Clay Video</title>
		<link>http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/conditioning-how-to-polymer-clay-tools-techniques-and-instructions/442/#comment-47599</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy Lietz@Distressed Paint Finishes on Polymer Clay Video</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 02:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome sharing of ideas guys!! Thank you so much Sue and Silverleaf, for coming to Michele&#039;s rescue!

I just thought I&#039;d pop in here too, and mention that there is a video on Distressed Paint Finishes on Polymer Clay. The link by my name will provide more info about that tute, as well as about some paint brands I&#039;ve used successfully with polymer clay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome sharing of ideas guys!! Thank you so much Sue and Silverleaf, for coming to Michele&#8217;s rescue!</p>
<p>I just thought I&#8217;d pop in here too, and mention that there is a video on Distressed Paint Finishes on Polymer Clay. The link by my name will provide more info about that tute, as well as about some paint brands I&#8217;ve used successfully with polymer clay.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Silverleaf, thank you so much for all your ideas. I am planning to try the Ranger alcohol inks. I like your vodka idea too. Who know maybe a little nip will calm me down. LOL :0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Silverleaf, thank you so much for all your ideas. I am planning to try the Ranger alcohol inks. I like your vodka idea too. Who know maybe a little nip will calm me down. LOL :0</p>
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		<title>By: Silverleaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silverleaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 16:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47565&quot;&gt;Michele&lt;/a&gt;: I think you&#039;ll like that video, it&#039;s really cool! I&#039;m not really into sculptural flowers but I worked through it anyway and it was good fun, and I made some pretty roses by the end of it.

As for painting, I just want to add a couple of ideas.

Apparently some paints work well with clay, and others don&#039;t. Acrylic paints are generally fine but oil paints can react with the clay and ruin it, so whatever you choose to use I&#039;d recommend baking some sample chips and painting them and leaving them somewhere for at least a couple of months to see if the paint&#039;s clay-compatible. Better to wait a while before you paint your flowers than to spend hours shaping and painting them only for them to get all sticky and soft later on! Anyone else have brands they can recommend that definitely work?

I like Sue&#039;s mica powder idea. Also, Perfect Pearls have a special resin mixed in which bonds with the clay when it&#039;s baked so it doesn&#039;t rub off as easily as Pearl-ex. And you can mix the powders with water and paint it onto baked clay (then rebake to set the resin). Maybe add a thin layer of Future to protect the mica if it&#039;s in a place that can get rubbed easily.

Maybe alcohol inks would be fun too, they are translucent and you can &quot;thin&quot; them down with something like rubbing alcohol (I&#039;ve actually used a small amount of high-proof vodka for this too) and paint them on baked or unbaked clay. Pinata or Ranger inks are good (I like the Tim Holtz Adirondack inks).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a  href="#comment-47565">Michele</a>: I think you&#8217;ll like that video, it&#8217;s really cool! I&#8217;m not really into sculptural flowers but I worked through it anyway and it was good fun, and I made some pretty roses by the end of it.</p>
<p>As for painting, I just want to add a couple of ideas.</p>
<p>Apparently some paints work well with clay, and others don&#8217;t. Acrylic paints are generally fine but oil paints can react with the clay and ruin it, so whatever you choose to use I&#8217;d recommend baking some sample chips and painting them and leaving them somewhere for at least a couple of months to see if the paint&#8217;s clay-compatible. Better to wait a while before you paint your flowers than to spend hours shaping and painting them only for them to get all sticky and soft later on! Anyone else have brands they can recommend that definitely work?</p>
<p>I like Sue&#8217;s mica powder idea. Also, Perfect Pearls have a special resin mixed in which bonds with the clay when it&#8217;s baked so it doesn&#8217;t rub off as easily as Pearl-ex. And you can mix the powders with water and paint it onto baked clay (then rebake to set the resin). Maybe add a thin layer of Future to protect the mica if it&#8217;s in a place that can get rubbed easily.</p>
<p>Maybe alcohol inks would be fun too, they are translucent and you can &#8220;thin&#8221; them down with something like rubbing alcohol (I&#8217;ve actually used a small amount of high-proof vodka for this too) and paint them on baked or unbaked clay. Pinata or Ranger inks are good (I like the Tim Holtz Adirondack inks).</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the rose video preview and will be joining soon. I love the idea of using a cane to make at least one flower. My flowers are all usually made free form, one petal at a time. This seems so much easier. Thanks Sue for letting me know about the video and Cindy thanks for making the video, this is right up my alley. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the rose video preview and will be joining soon. I love the idea of using a cane to make at least one flower. My flowers are all usually made free form, one petal at a time. This seems so much easier. Thanks Sue for letting me know about the video and Cindy thanks for making the video, this is right up my alley. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sue F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47561&quot;&gt;Michele&lt;/a&gt;: I&#039;ve just seen your latest post, Michele -- posted while I was typing my last long one, I think! -- and it&#039;s fantastic to hear that you&#039;ve had some success with conditioning your Kato clay! Hopefully your Premo will also behave.

You&#039;ll probably find that you have one generally-favoured clay, but that other clays are handy to have around for different techniques.

I like Kato best by far because really firm clay suits how I like to work most of the time, but I also have quite a stack of Premo because it&#039;s much more manageable for things like extruding. I really like a Ronna Sarvas Weltman-style bead where a solid core is completely covered with very fine parallel extruded clay strings, and I always use Premo for that (I&#039;ve broken a couple of extruders by forcing Kato through them). And for an example of a technique that requires a firm clay, I recently did Christine Dumont&#039;s online Butterfly Beads course (awesome fun!); that technique is quite sculptural and it would be close to impossible to achieve satisfactory results with a soft clay.

And as for how *I* do it... well, luckily I&#039;m pretty strong! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a  href="#comment-47561">Michele</a>: I&#8217;ve just seen your latest post, Michele &#8212; posted while I was typing my last long one, I think! &#8212; and it&#8217;s fantastic to hear that you&#8217;ve had some success with conditioning your Kato clay! Hopefully your Premo will also behave.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll probably find that you have one generally-favoured clay, but that other clays are handy to have around for different techniques.</p>
<p>I like Kato best by far because really firm clay suits how I like to work most of the time, but I also have quite a stack of Premo because it&#8217;s much more manageable for things like extruding. I really like a Ronna Sarvas Weltman-style bead where a solid core is completely covered with very fine parallel extruded clay strings, and I always use Premo for that (I&#8217;ve broken a couple of extruders by forcing Kato through them). And for an example of a technique that requires a firm clay, I recently did Christine Dumont&#8217;s online Butterfly Beads course (awesome fun!); that technique is quite sculptural and it would be close to impossible to achieve satisfactory results with a soft clay.</p>
<p>And as for how *I* do it&#8230; well, luckily I&#8217;m pretty strong! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Sue F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47561&quot;&gt;Michele&lt;/a&gt;: You&#039;re most welcome, Michele!

I actually find tests of that kind quite interesting to do because they help me understand the properties of the different clays better. (So when I have a hare-brained idea I want to try out, I&#039;m less likely to get myself into trouble! LOL)

It&#039;s great to hear that you&#039;re getting excited about polymer clay again! Did you have any luck washing that glycerin off? (Even if you didn&#039;t, there are some faux gemstone techniques where the super-plaquing would work out quite well; you&#039;d probably just need to sand the surface a lot more than normal to smooth that out.)

I don&#039;t know much about painting polymer clay because I generally like using the clay itself for the decorative aspects, but I have used paint both before and after curing the clay. Off the top of my head (knowing I&#039;m forgetting some things!):

Before curing: I&#039;ve done a deep-crack, large-flake crackle technique which involved painting many layers of metallic acrylic paint onto a thick sheet of unbaked clay which I then manipulated and rolled to give the crackle effect. I&#039;ve used Helen Breil&#039;s techniques with textured clay and Lumiere paints for some really lovely colour transitions and dimensional effects. I&#039;ve used oil paints marbled into uncured translucent clay when making faux stones and gemstones. I&#039;ve made faux turquoise and similar faux gemstones by coating chopped-up clay with acrylic paint, letting it dry, then collecting it all together to shape before curing.

After curing: I&#039;ve used both acrylic paint and oil paint for highlighting/lowlighting textured clay surfaces after they&#039;ve been cured, e.g. brush on and rub mostly off before it&#039;s dried, or brush on, leave to dry, then sand so that only the paint in the etched areas remains.

For your flowers with a different inside colour, you could &quot;paint&quot; the insides of the petals after shaping but before curing with suitably-coloured mica powders (PearlEx, Perfect Pearls, etc.), using a fine, soft paintbrush. You don&#039;t need to stick with a single colour, for instance you could use a deeper colour in the throat of the flower, or blend from one colour to another from petal edge to centre, or whatever you like. Mica powders could be one way to achieve the slightly luminescent appearance that real petals have, and if they&#039;re inside the flowers they should be protected enough not to need a coat of anything on top as a sealant.

Another idea, but not involving painting, would be to make separate sheets of clay for the outside and inside colours, put them together and roll to the desired thickness, cut your petals out from that, and then do final shaping, edge tapering, etc., by hand. Subtle skinner (or teardrop) blends would probably work well, particularly if the clay colours included some mica clay (e.g. Pearl) for the luminescent effect, and maybe some extra translucent clay to minimise any visual flatness. (You should be able to do the same kind of thing even if you use a cane to make a patterned petal interior: take a thin slice of the cane, back it with a thin sheet of whatever clay you want for the outside of the petal, then shape as required.)

I also know that Cindy has published at least one tutorial on making flowers from polymer clay. I have to admit I didn&#039;t pay much attention to that particular one myself because it&#039;s totally not my kind of thing, but have a look at the preview and see if it&#039;s on the right track for what you want: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/polymer-clay-tutorial-variegated-sculpted-rose-beads/4390/&quot;&gt;Variegated Sculpted Rose Beads&lt;/a&gt;

Have fun! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a  href="#comment-47561">Michele</a>: You&#8217;re most welcome, Michele!</p>
<p>I actually find tests of that kind quite interesting to do because they help me understand the properties of the different clays better. (So when I have a hare-brained idea I want to try out, I&#8217;m less likely to get myself into trouble! LOL)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great to hear that you&#8217;re getting excited about polymer clay again! Did you have any luck washing that glycerin off? (Even if you didn&#8217;t, there are some faux gemstone techniques where the super-plaquing would work out quite well; you&#8217;d probably just need to sand the surface a lot more than normal to smooth that out.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about painting polymer clay because I generally like using the clay itself for the decorative aspects, but I have used paint both before and after curing the clay. Off the top of my head (knowing I&#8217;m forgetting some things!):</p>
<p>Before curing: I&#8217;ve done a deep-crack, large-flake crackle technique which involved painting many layers of metallic acrylic paint onto a thick sheet of unbaked clay which I then manipulated and rolled to give the crackle effect. I&#8217;ve used Helen Breil&#8217;s techniques with textured clay and Lumiere paints for some really lovely colour transitions and dimensional effects. I&#8217;ve used oil paints marbled into uncured translucent clay when making faux stones and gemstones. I&#8217;ve made faux turquoise and similar faux gemstones by coating chopped-up clay with acrylic paint, letting it dry, then collecting it all together to shape before curing.</p>
<p>After curing: I&#8217;ve used both acrylic paint and oil paint for highlighting/lowlighting textured clay surfaces after they&#8217;ve been cured, e.g. brush on and rub mostly off before it&#8217;s dried, or brush on, leave to dry, then sand so that only the paint in the etched areas remains.</p>
<p>For your flowers with a different inside colour, you could &#8220;paint&#8221; the insides of the petals after shaping but before curing with suitably-coloured mica powders (PearlEx, Perfect Pearls, etc.), using a fine, soft paintbrush. You don&#8217;t need to stick with a single colour, for instance you could use a deeper colour in the throat of the flower, or blend from one colour to another from petal edge to centre, or whatever you like. Mica powders could be one way to achieve the slightly luminescent appearance that real petals have, and if they&#8217;re inside the flowers they should be protected enough not to need a coat of anything on top as a sealant.</p>
<p>Another idea, but not involving painting, would be to make separate sheets of clay for the outside and inside colours, put them together and roll to the desired thickness, cut your petals out from that, and then do final shaping, edge tapering, etc., by hand. Subtle skinner (or teardrop) blends would probably work well, particularly if the clay colours included some mica clay (e.g. Pearl) for the luminescent effect, and maybe some extra translucent clay to minimise any visual flatness. (You should be able to do the same kind of thing even if you use a cane to make a patterned petal interior: take a thin slice of the cane, back it with a thin sheet of whatever clay you want for the outside of the petal, then shape as required.)</p>
<p>I also know that Cindy has published at least one tutorial on making flowers from polymer clay. I have to admit I didn&#8217;t pay much attention to that particular one myself because it&#8217;s totally not my kind of thing, but have a look at the preview and see if it&#8217;s on the right track for what you want: <a  href="http://www.beadsandbeading.com/blog/polymer-clay-tutorial-variegated-sculpted-rose-beads/4390/">Variegated Sculpted Rose Beads</a></p>
<p>Have fun! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sue F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47520&quot;&gt;Cindy Lietz from Rose Petal Beads&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;i&gt;I think we should all chip in and buy Sue a white lab coat&lt;/i&gt;

You think I don&#039;t already have one? LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a  href="#comment-47520">Cindy Lietz from Rose Petal Beads</a>:</p>
<p><i>I think we should all chip in and buy Sue a white lab coat</i></p>
<p>You think I don&#8217;t already have one? LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Cindy and Sue, I wanted to thank you both cause I think I may have finally conditioned some Kato Clay. I had to use more than one method. I could not put the clay through the machine as you suggested Sue so I chopped it up, put on some kato poly clay?, then whacked the package till it started to stick together. Then I worked it a bit smoother till I could pass it through the machine in the way Sue suggested and viola! I think I have clay that is almost conditioned. It is something I never thought I would see. Nicely rolled clay! I worked for over 3 hours last eve and did two batches, one fresh clay and one with the glycerin (un rinsed). I hope the glycerin one does not bubble when I try to bake it but will let you know. I want to try the Premo tonight and see which clay I prefer to use. I don&#039;t know how you ladies do it cause I was exhausted and had a sore arm. :) Do some people use more than one clay depending on what they are making? Also, thanks again Cindy for what you did and all that you do. I will follow your suggestion soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Cindy and Sue, I wanted to thank you both cause I think I may have finally conditioned some Kato Clay. I had to use more than one method. I could not put the clay through the machine as you suggested Sue so I chopped it up, put on some kato poly clay?, then whacked the package till it started to stick together. Then I worked it a bit smoother till I could pass it through the machine in the way Sue suggested and viola! I think I have clay that is almost conditioned. It is something I never thought I would see. Nicely rolled clay! I worked for over 3 hours last eve and did two batches, one fresh clay and one with the glycerin (un rinsed). I hope the glycerin one does not bubble when I try to bake it but will let you know. I want to try the Premo tonight and see which clay I prefer to use. I don&#8217;t know how you ladies do it cause I was exhausted and had a sore arm. :) Do some people use more than one clay depending on what they are making? Also, thanks again Cindy for what you did and all that you do. I will follow your suggestion soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-47512&quot;&gt;Sue F&lt;/a&gt;: 
Sue you are an amazing person! You did all those tests? Thank you so so much for all of your time and work and for sharing in such a concise and understandable manner.   I didn&#039;t realize about all those spambots and that you did not get my email address. Maybe Cindy can help? cause I did pack a small box for you already and no money is wanted. Appreciate you a lot. I am going to try to wash that nasty glycerin off the clay. I am starting to get excited again about polymer clay! Oh do you know about painting clay? before or after and the differences? I want to make these flowers- free hand and the inside color is different than the outside color. I will also check the blogs but you are such a wealth of information!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a  href="#comment-47512">Sue F</a>:<br />
Sue you are an amazing person! You did all those tests? Thank you so so much for all of your time and work and for sharing in such a concise and understandable manner.   I didn&#8217;t realize about all those spambots and that you did not get my email address. Maybe Cindy can help? cause I did pack a small box for you already and no money is wanted. Appreciate you a lot. I am going to try to wash that nasty glycerin off the clay. I am starting to get excited again about polymer clay! Oh do you know about painting clay? before or after and the differences? I want to make these flowers- free hand and the inside color is different than the outside color. I will also check the blogs but you are such a wealth of information!</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Lietz@Rose Petal Beads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Lietz@Rose Petal Beads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 18:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;And there you have it...&lt;/em&gt; the definitive guide to using (or not using) glycerin with polymer clay. I think we should all chip in and buy Sue a white lab coat for all the scientific testing she does around here :-) Thanks so much for taking the time to document and share your results. What a great post!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>And there you have it&#8230;</em> the definitive guide to using (or not using) glycerin with polymer clay. I think we should all chip in and buy Sue a white lab coat for all the scientific testing she does around here :-) Thanks so much for taking the time to document and share your results. What a great post!!!</p>
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